Another confused first timer

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

1,800+ hrs on my B7800. Life would have been easy if it had only seen 5 acres: I've got 40 and it was total crap- 10' high grasses and LOTS of logging and tree debris, not to mention blackberries.

It sounds like you under bought.

My Kioti (about 750 hrs on it now) has done everything that I'd expected/needed it to do and has been very reliable once some early hiccups got taken care of by the dealer.

Would you share what the hiccups were?

 

[JasperFrank]

Their picture shows dozens of them....they wouldn't fake a picture would they?

Of coarse they would. They just keep using an old pict, when the yard was full. Not faked... just not current... My local New Holland dealer's internet site shows rows and rows of tractors for sale. I drive by, and nothing is on their lot, now, at all. It would be silly to expect them to show an empty lot.

 

[DieselBound]

I bought what I could afford. Had just bought my 40 acres. Lots of work required on the home. The nature of things was such that I would have broken the heck out of a larger tractor; B7800 was nimble AND sturdy enough to handle things that a larger tractor wouldn't have.

Kioti issues (I've got a thread somewhere but I'm too lazy to look it up):
- Leaking cab: took two trips to the dealer (dealer covered transport) to rectify (but they RTV'd the top- I later spend MANY hours cleaning up after this in order to clear out some mouse nests!)
- Loader wasn't straight/level: dealer replaced the loader (all covered)
- Leaking rear diff: dealer took care of; had other side leak and they took care of that as well, but I had to transport; minor leak, but I wanted it resolved, which under warranty it was.

Couple things no different than with the B7800 I've had to mess with: broke a bucket cylinder on the B7800 and it cost me about $700; broke one on the Kioti and the replacement cost was slightly less. Yup, I break stuff. Engine has been flawless (always starts easily; my B7800 is a pig), as has the HST and the hydraulics. A WHOLE LOT more of a tractor than the B7800, more stuff to wear and break. Not apples to oranges. I have more concern over attachments working than I do with the Kioti.

The best tractor is one that gets the work done that you need to get done, and does so reliably. My Kioti will never see the total hours that my B7800 has racked up in which case I won't be able to use hours as the metric: I won't live long enough to rack up those hours.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Their picture shows dozens of them....they wouldn't fake a picture would they?

If they are not going to be straight with their advertising that's something that should not be ignored.

 

[rScotty]

There's an argument that it could be an honest mistake or just laziness. After all, I wish I still looked like the photo on my driver's license. It's still me, but with hair....

But in this case the photo is being used specifically for an on-going advertising promotion. So we would expect it to be up to date.
rScotty

 

[DieselBound]

If they are not going to be straight with their advertising that's something that should not be ignored.

That's communication.

I ALWAYS stress that COMMUNICATION is key. Buying a tractor isn't like punching a "Buy" button on Amazon!

Currently looking for an architect and I was in contact with one who failed to read that I was wanting to build a NEW house and not wanting to gut my existing one. Tossed him out! Guy building my garage was flat-out awesome, we did many back-and-forths and things came out perfect: always a quick response. <<- KEY - Slow responses is BAD practice. I was in somewhat of a customer support role and I would at the very least acknowledge receiving someone's questions and give them some sort of estimate of when I'd respond in depth: and all along the way of dealing with whatever it was I'd provide progress reports; and I was an insanely busy guy, so I see no real excuses for others to not be prompt with their communications.

 

[Hoodoo]

But in this case the photo is being used specifically for an on-going advertising promotion. So we would expect it to be up to date.
rScotty

I agree. I have not received a call back since Monday. I'll try again tomorrow. I know in my career I would occasionally miss a message, so I'll give him another chance....

 

[kenmac]

I agree. I have not received a call back since Monday. I'll try again tomorrow. I know in my career I would occasionally miss a message, so I'll give him another chance....

If you aren't just stuck on new, Look at good used emissions free tractor. You'll probably like it much better. I have two, and neither are new emissions tractors. I have been very pleased that every time I crank my tractors, I don't have to run them at full throttle for fear of having to regen.

If new is what you want, I understand. Good luck !

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

But in this case the photo is being used specifically for an on-going advertising promotion. So we would expect it to be up to date.

And up to date would be an empty parking lot

 

[rScotty]

If you aren't just stuck on new, Look at good used emissions free tractor. You'll probably like it much better. I have two, and neither are new emissions tractors. I have been very pleased that every time I crank my tractors, I don't have to run them at full throttle for fear of having to regen.

If new is what you want, I understand. Good luck !

A lot of people won't buy used. I don't understand why. I don't understand why a newby wouldn't prefer a tractor with a track record as a proven performer over a new machine with a warranty covering unknown problems.

I'm thinking the reason must be some sort of social and generational thing, it makes no mechanical sense that I can see.

Tractors are still designed to last pretty much unchanged about 5x as long as most people own them - and that's being conservative. 5000 hrs versus 1000. Or at least they have been designed that way traditionally. After any warranty issues, you do routine maintenance and your tractor works the same for thousands of hours.

Maybe somebody will explain it to me. I truly don't understand the logic. Plus, it saves money!

rScotty