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Not a bad idea, you can't really explain away a bullet hole.
Any one seen a drone?
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Have you checked with your neighbors? May want to try these guys too - PHPRC Landing Page - an RC plane club local to your area.
If this is a simple RC aircraft, the pilot is going to be very close by (they need to see it to fly it).
If this is a simple RC aircraft, the pilot is going to be very close by (they need to see it to fly it).
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You are right about being able to see it fly, it is a requirement of the FAA. I am fairly certain the drone I see is more in line with a government or military design. Hopefully the FAA will find out.
k0ua
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How about a pix of this darn thing!
How can you tell the size of any aircraft without a frame of reference? How far away is it? downrange and at what azimuth and elevation?Can you hear its engine/s? Have you tried to use the 2 simultaneous observers spaced apart method to determine azimuth and elevation? It may not be near as large as you think it is, just closer to you than you realize. I postulate that it is impossible to determine the size of any aerial object with just one observer and no other clues or frame of reference. The drone could be 6 inches long or 60 feet long, There is no way to know.
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How can you tell the size of any aircraft without a frame of reference? How far away is it? downrange and at what azimuth and elevation?Can you hear its engine/s? Have you tried to use the 2 simultaneous observers spaced apart method to determine azimuth and elevation? It may not be near as large as you think it is, just closer to you than you realize. I postulate that it is impossible to determine the size of any aerial object with just one observer and no other clues or frame of reference. The drone could be 6 inches long or 60 feet long, There is no way to know.
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CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr:
It looks like a bat, sweeping, turning. But it’s actually the new super-secret Air Force stealth drone.
CNN has learned this unmanned spy plane is designed to fly for up to 24 hours behind enemy lines in countries like North Korea, Iran, and Syria.
Military sources tell CNN it will give the United States a critical stealth advantage to spy on countries that have strong air defense systems able to shoot down more conventional aircraft.
The drone, believed to be called the RQ-180, was first revealed by the magazine Aviation Week and Space Technology in a lengthy article co-authored by Amy Butler and Bill Sweetman, both long time experts in classified military stealth technology.
The program is so classified the Air Force would not confirm its existence to CNN or Aviation Week.
But several U.S. officials told CNN its capabilities are a top intelligence gathering priority– especially after a less sophisticated stealth drone went down in Iran in 2012.
The key, Butler said, is the drone’s ability to fly long distance and stay aloft for 24 hours in a stealthy manner.
"This aircraft will be able to penetrate that border and conduct operations in and around an enemy airspace without being targeted," Butler told CNN.
It’s so secret the drone is believed to be at a hangar at Area 51 - the Air Force's highly secure flight test center in Nevada.
The drone may be able to fly as high as 11 miles. The requirement for an asset that is stealthy, can fly at high altitude and conduct intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance is a crucial priority for the military and the intelligence community.
In several countries, air defenses have improved significantly in recent years making it difficult if not impossible for U.S. assets to gather information.
The drone’s ability to stay up for 24 hours will also give it a key advantage over satellites which often pass by a target intermittently and are subject to be being detected.
Butler said the shape of the drone means enemy radars can't easily see the drone as heat it throws off is shielded so radars can’t pick it up.
“This aircraft is designed to evade both those thermal sensor, those radar sensors, and other sensors that look for aircraft. So it might not be invisible to radar, but you might not be able to target it and shoot it down.”
Butler suggested the drone may even be able to carry sensors that can listen to cell phone calls and any “activities on enemy frequency, radar activities, that sort of thing.”
Although it’s not confirmed, the magazine suggested the drone could be operating as soon as 2015.
Post by: CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr
Filed under: drones
It looks like a bat, sweeping, turning. But it’s actually the new super-secret Air Force stealth drone.
CNN has learned this unmanned spy plane is designed to fly for up to 24 hours behind enemy lines in countries like North Korea, Iran, and Syria.
Military sources tell CNN it will give the United States a critical stealth advantage to spy on countries that have strong air defense systems able to shoot down more conventional aircraft.
The drone, believed to be called the RQ-180, was first revealed by the magazine Aviation Week and Space Technology in a lengthy article co-authored by Amy Butler and Bill Sweetman, both long time experts in classified military stealth technology.
The program is so classified the Air Force would not confirm its existence to CNN or Aviation Week.
But several U.S. officials told CNN its capabilities are a top intelligence gathering priority– especially after a less sophisticated stealth drone went down in Iran in 2012.
The key, Butler said, is the drone’s ability to fly long distance and stay aloft for 24 hours in a stealthy manner.
"This aircraft will be able to penetrate that border and conduct operations in and around an enemy airspace without being targeted," Butler told CNN.
It’s so secret the drone is believed to be at a hangar at Area 51 - the Air Force's highly secure flight test center in Nevada.
The drone may be able to fly as high as 11 miles. The requirement for an asset that is stealthy, can fly at high altitude and conduct intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance is a crucial priority for the military and the intelligence community.
In several countries, air defenses have improved significantly in recent years making it difficult if not impossible for U.S. assets to gather information.
The drone’s ability to stay up for 24 hours will also give it a key advantage over satellites which often pass by a target intermittently and are subject to be being detected.
Butler said the shape of the drone means enemy radars can't easily see the drone as heat it throws off is shielded so radars can’t pick it up.
“This aircraft is designed to evade both those thermal sensor, those radar sensors, and other sensors that look for aircraft. So it might not be invisible to radar, but you might not be able to target it and shoot it down.”
Butler suggested the drone may even be able to carry sensors that can listen to cell phone calls and any “activities on enemy frequency, radar activities, that sort of thing.”
Although it’s not confirmed, the magazine suggested the drone could be operating as soon as 2015.
Post by: CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr
Filed under: drones
Dr_Zinj
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Depends on your lawyer.
"Your honor. My client issued three verbal orders to the drone to stop. As the drone was within my client's curtilege, and he was in fear for his life that the drone was armed, he shot to kill. Clearly a justifiable case of self-defense. I ask that all charges against my client be dropped."
Drone map:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/...zations-your-local-law-enforcement-agency-map
Virginia drone builder. Maybe developing a new model.
http://www.aurora.aero/Products/Orion.aspx
Bruce
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/...zations-your-local-law-enforcement-agency-map
Virginia drone builder. Maybe developing a new model.
http://www.aurora.aero/Products/Orion.aspx
Bruce
k0ua
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Wow, 5 days endurance, at 20,000 ft with a 1000 lb payload.. now I am impressed. Think of using it for a communications relay on station over a forest fire for instance for voice, data, and video formats.. that would be great.
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