Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels?

   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #1  

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I've read of them shattering and I'm apprehensive of getting shards in my body even though I wear PPE.
But presently the roofing metal I'm cutting is eating about 1 Dewalt DW8062 wheel per panel width.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #2  
I cut roofing metal with my skilsaw, way faster, easier and I think safer. I dedicate my old blades to that task. But when I use a grinder I go until I can't cut all the way through a channel of the roofing then swap out so probably ~40% smaller when I'm done?
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #3  
Something's wrong...you should be able to cut most roofing metal all day long with the same wheel...!
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #4  
Don't buy harbor freight cutting wheels...stick with diablo or dewalt.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #6  
If you are using it to cut look for one of those Diablo or Lenox diamond metal cutting blades. On 1/4" steel they don't cut as fast as an abrasive cutting wheel but they last 1000times longer.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #8  
I've read of them shattering and I'm apprehensive of getting shards in my body even though I wear PPE.
But presently the roofing metal I'm cutting is eating about 1 Dewalt DW8062 wheel per panel width.
That sounds about right in my experience. Cutoff discs don't last long but are cheap. I recently cut about 20-30 8" I beams with a stack of these. Just need to go slow and no twisting. There are maybe better options as noted by others but I have about 50 more to go through and they work. Just keep a wrench handy.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #9  
For roofing, use a circular saw with a metal cutting blade. The grinder will heat the metal too much and be more likely to cause rust issues in the future. I made all the cuts necessary for my pole barn with one metal cutting blade and it's still in good shape.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #10  
Never use them without wearing protective gear and clothing.

When I use abrasive cut off wheels I have a face shield, leather arm covers, leather apron, and leather gloves on.

I use the 4-1/2" discs until they wear down to the grinder head.

I have had a few come apart. If I see a nic in the edge I throw it away. I had a 7" disc explode on my chop saw and shatter the guard. One piece actually hit my face shield. 99% of the time they wear evenly until they are worn out.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #11  
I used to cut roofing metal with a skill saw with a backwards blade. It worked ok but was quite noisy and left a poor finish. My buddy says to me why aren't you using a good pair of scissor type tin snips? Why indeed? I'll never go back to grinding or a skill saw. Tin snips are quick and easy to use and.... quiet.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #12  
Most (if not all) violent failures I have experienced were precipitated by catching the wheel on something and taking a chunk out of it. Then you better look out!
 
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Long ago I worked at a facility where the Ingersol-Rand tools used 6" cutting wheels. Infrequently - one would fragment. Never knew why. Everybody blamed it on improper use of the tool. Leather gloves, long sleeved shirts and heavy duty plexiglass face shields were the word of the day.

Most wore leather welding jackets when using these cutters.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #14  
When using cutoff wheels I found that they don't work well if you try to use them like a saw, where you cut all the way thru as you move forward. When cuts of more than a few inches need to be made I place a metal straight edge where a line is scored. Then with light pressure and moving back and forth grind thru. With this method making a 4 foot cut thru 3/16" diamond plate takes one 4 1/2" cutoff wheel.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #15  
get a blade for steel for your circ saw.
Yep!
I found such a blade (rare) that looks like a standard saw blade but has no teeth, just a lot of slits.
The call it a 'friction blade'.
I've made a whole lots of roofing cuts and that blade is still good to go.
Downside is it creates a lot of 'steel wool' like remnants as well as leaving a scorched (1/8") like trace on the cut metal.
OK for thin (roof like) metal but not for thicker stock.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #16  
Use skill saw with carbide tipped blade and a lot of safety gear... Not a angle grinder...


Angle grinder cutoff.jpg
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #17  
Wrong tool for job, Circular saw with metal blade, Dualsaw (counter rotating blades), powered metal shear or nibbler

 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #18  
If you're cutting the steel roofing for a metal building, try using an air powered nibbler. I've found it works better than any saw and is fast.
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #19  
i7win7 - what is your tractor pulling in your avatar? Is that a dirt pan? Do you have a bigger picture?
 
   / Any rule-of-thumb for replacing 4.5" cutoff wheels? #20  
Nibbler....... then draw file as, or, if needed.
Have done many aircraft skin repairs and metal roofing trimming with those tools.
A & P Patrick
 

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