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   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #221  
Yours doesn't have the roller clutch, the lever connects the drive shaft to the rear axle.

Does the manual say anything about using 4WD on hard surfaces?
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #222  
I don't know if it would be classified as a crappy design. It's just something that they improved over time. Nice for when you want to back up a hill, otherwise you'll never notice.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #223  
Figured out a few things yesterday, not sure if they are connected or not. I discovered on gravel with a fairly cool engine and drive train, that when the right brake is applied, it locked right up and did a perfect zero turn around that wheel. I was thrilled as this was progress, but found out later as it warmed up it didn't want to do it as easily. I've read in the manual that if you mow with the deck not floating that it can make the fluid get hot, and also can affect the power steering. I have the lever in float, but the arm doesn't go down, it isn't trying to lift, but it doesn't relax either. I made sure the valve was adjusted properly, but it still won't go down like my other groundsmasters. Also found in attempting to adjust the neutral position, the manual said to lift one wheel off the ground and notice which way the lift wheel was turning if at all and adjust accordingly. Well, the wheel on the ground kept turning even though the manual said it wouldn't, so either something is going on there, or the 4wd was engaged when it's suppose to be off. I didn't look at the time to see what was making the machine move since I was trying to keep it from falling off the jack! lol So to sum up, it will zero turn if I figure out how to make the right wheel stop when it's suppose to!
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #224  
I have the lever in float, but the arm doesn't go down, it isn't trying to lift, but it doesn't relax either.

That is normal for the newer machines. I think it keeps the slack from the deck lift chains.

As soon as it is started and in float, the lift arm comes up:

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You can push it down, but it comes up as soon as you let go.

Speaking of chains, be sure you count the links per the manual to match your deck. Most of the for sale ads that I see have them hooked at the end and wont raise the deck as high as possible.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #225  
Also found in attempting to adjust the neutral position, the manual said to lift one wheel off the ground and notice which way the lift wheel was turning if at all and adjust accordingly. Well, the wheel on the ground kept turning even though the manual said it wouldn't, so either something is going on there, or the 4wd was engaged when it's suppose to be off. I didn't look at the time to see what was making the machine move since I was trying to keep it from falling off the jack! lol
Jack up the right side and put a jack stand or block with wood. Get the right side of the rear axle off of the ground also.

Maybe the 4WD isn't disconnecting.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #226  
Thanks as always Xfaxman! I was just so happy to see that if all the conditions were right that it would in fact zero turn, or close to it. This gives me hope that with some more tinkering I can get it! Also got a tip yesterday to use universal trans fluid instead of 10w30 oil, this mainly is suppose to help them last longer, that the power steering really breaks down the oil.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #227  
I don't know if it would be classified as a crappy design. It's just something that they improved over time. Nice for when you want to back up a hill, otherwise you'll never notice.
Every machine made throughout history has had models that left a little to be desired! lol I love these machines and even this 325D but it's pretty clear this model falls into the before mentioned category :)
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #228  
A little follow up, I have the brakes working well on both sides and with a little practice I have it trimming around trees pretty well, I have to use the brake to get it to turn sharp, but it will do it! Thanks for all the help and pictures and advise!
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #229  
Your are welcome. Did you check to make sure the Steering Stop Bolts are not touching the left side bevel gear case casting?

The hydraulic cylinder is what stops the travel.

How about the 4WD, is it disconnecting?
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #230  
I just got done working on a 325 that was in a flood. Set for about a 4 or 5 weeks before I got it. Had to go thru everything and put all new bearing and seals in the deck and had to cut a lot of the bolts. I can see why you guys like them. They are old but what a mowing machine, I like it better then our zturn. The guy that has this has 3 of them and one has been his parts machine and I had to rob the starter off of the other one. and it was bad.
 

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