AR 15

[bcp]

Now ye're speaking my dialect!! Wood, just like the Bible says a gun should have on it.

An AR15 doesn't keep you from having nice wood.



AR15 wood photos

Bruce

 

[RoyJackson]

...the SKS is a rather rare Chinese 'paratrooper' model.

Rare? Not really...in fact, my paratrooper is a "throw it in the truck" gun.
The rare SKS rifles were called a sporter...the only SKS rifles manufactured to accept an AK type mag.

 

[hutchman]

Rare? Not really...in fact, my paratrooper is a "throw it in the truck" gun.
The rare SKS rifles were called a sporter...the only SKS rifles manufactured to accept an AK type mag.

I'm really kicking myself. We had a Roses store here years ago (long time) and they got a bunch of SKS rifles in and if I remember right they were like $70-$80 bucks and I hesitated and by the time I went in to get one they were all gone! One of my friends from my church, was faster than me and scored one at that price. Been kicking myself ever since. Every time we have a shooting event he brings it and rubs it in.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I'm really kicking myself. We had a Roses store here years ago (long time) and they got a bunch of SKS rifles in and if I remember right they were like $70-$80 bucks and I hesitated and by the time I went in to get one they were all gone! One of my friends from my church, was faster than me and scored one at that price. Been kicking myself ever since. Every time we have a shooting event he brings it and rubs it in.

One of my favorite quotes. "Nobody ever went broke from the deal they didn't do." I've used that one to talk myself down off the ledge on many an impulse buy. Yes I have passed up a few good deals but I have a lot more coin in my pocket for the good deals I do take advantage of.


Edited: because. Holy crackatoa that was a lot of spelling errors.

 

[4570Man]

An AR15 doesn't keep you from having nice wood. <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/rural-living/447676-ar-15-a-ar15walnut-jpg"/> AR15 wood photos Bruce

What is the point? It is no longer a throw in the back of the truck and drag through the woods gun.

 

[westcliffe01]

I have "tuned" many a trigger, but the cheap milspec triggers made today are metal injection molded (MIM) and case hardened. That means that the surfaces have a lot of flash and the case is very shallow. I was not able to get both a SAFE, LEGAL and LIGHT trigger, regardless of what I tried.

Remember, if your rifle doubles, you might go to jail for owning an illegal machine gun. No-one might pay attention if it is a 10/22 but with an AR15 you are firmly in the ATF's sights.

Quite frankly, I will state that improving one of the current MIM produced millspec triggers cannot be done safely. I neither want to be responsible for an AD due too little sear engagement or a negative engagement angle, nor for jail time due to having "hammer follow". I experienced all of the above issues (less the jail time) with trying to modify the stock trigger.

I think back in the day before the introduction of MIM, the triggers were probably forged, machined and heat treated and one could do more with them compared to todays MIM junk.

Now, make sure you get a modern trigger design of which there are many and check it before you buy. 8-10lb with lots of creep and grittiness will tell you that the armourer is cutting corners with cheap junk. Walk away.

Wow, sounds like everyone is unhappy with stock triggers. Google '15 Minute trigger job' and check it out. Here's a link but you can find more people talking about it and videos etc. if you google it:
15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15

You don't even need to cut the spring ... you can get a big improvement just by doing all the other steps which soothes and mates the sear surfaces.

Want more? There is another cheap and relatively easy mod (a small step up in difficulty) to take up the pre travel of the stock trigger (combined with the above will give you a one stage trigger that breaks like glass which everyone wants for some reason ). If you combine these two things you can have a very nice trigger with the stock setup for next to no money. This procedure has warning because if you don't understand what is going on and go too crazy with it you can make the trigger unsafe. But if you are competent and pay attention to what you are doing it is totally fine and greatly improves the stock GI trigger experience.
Junk Yard Genius.com AR-15/M-16 Pages, page 1.

 

[PhysAssist]

One of my favorite quotes. "Nobody ever went broke from the deal they didn't do." I've used that one to talk myself down off the ledge on many an impulse buy. Yes I have passed up a few good deals but I have a lot more coin in my pocket for the good deals I do take advantage of.


Edited: because. Holy crackatoa that was a lot of spelling errors.

There is one more, LOL: It's Krakatoa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa

 

[oldpilgrim]

Rare? Not really...in fact, my paratrooper is a "throw it in the truck" gun.
The rare SKS rifles were called a sporter...the only SKS rifles manufactured to accept an AK type mag.

I said relatively rare.....as compared to the full-sized versions. I've been around guns for a while and I've never seen another short version like this around here. Occasionally one will be for sale in a gun sales site. There are thousands of the regular length ones, everywhere. Especially the ones with the 'launcher' on the end.

The 'sporter' model you refer to is, I THINK, called model D, if I remember right. There's a reason they're rare......they don't work well.

Anything can be thrown in the truck. I prefer not to with mine.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have to read this entire thread when I have some time. I fired both .223 and .308 surplus military ammo many years ago. We bought a thousand rounds at a time. It all depends on what you want to shoot. The 308 is hard hitting but lacks the wound ballistics of the .223. You can put a hole through something with the .308 and it might walk or run away before it knows it has a hole in it. Not so with the .223. We fired some Soviet .223 but I don't remember if it was as nasty as the NATO 5.56. I had to think of this in the wake of the French attacks. So many were wounded. They used soviet .223. Those could be some extremely nasty wounds!

 

[hutchman]

I have "tuned" many a trigger, but the cheap milspec triggers made today are metal injection molded (MIM) and case hardened. That means that the surfaces have a lot of flash and the case is very shallow. I was not able to get both a SAFE, LEGAL and LIGHT trigger, regardless of what I tried.

Remember, if your rifle doubles, you might go to jail for owning an illegal machine gun. No-one might pay attention if it is a 10/22 but with an AR15 you are firmly in the ATF's sights.

Quite frankly, I will state that improving one of the current MIM produced millspec triggers cannot be done safely. I neither want to be responsible for an AD due too little sear engagement or a negative engagement angle, nor for jail time due to having "hammer follow". I experienced all of the above issues (less the jail time) with trying to modify the stock trigger.

I think back in the day before the introduction of MIM, the triggers were probably forged, machined and heat treated and one could do more with them compared to todays MIM junk.

Now, make sure you get a modern trigger design of which there are many and check it before you buy. 8-10lb with lots of creep and grittiness will tell you that the armourer is cutting corners with cheap junk. Walk away.

Yea, all the ones I've done were old (well 10+ yrs maybe) but what you say makes sense and I know MIM has been on the increase. When I was researching new Springfield M14's a few years ago, folks were saying they had MIM and investment cast parts and lots of folks were hunting for forged GI milspec replacement parts. Everybody trying to save a buck I guess.