B2320, B2620, and B2920

[bandit67]

Chuck, are front weights needed when using the BH70x on the B2630?

If you are going with one of the new B2x20's, I'd stick with the Kubota BH65 as it is designed to match up perfectly with those machines. Putting the Woods BH70X on those machines would be kind of like putting the Woods BH6000 on the BX24 instead of the Kubota matched hoe. Although you can't get the BX24 without the hoe, it is a similar scenario.

If you are going with the B2630, then either the BH75 or BH70X would be the way to go, though the Kubota hoe is bigger and more powerful. The BH75 should be heavier than the BH70X, and only the FEL is required for either backhoe - there shouldn't be any need for additional weights up front. You do get a curved boom and factory thumb bracket with the Woods hoe, and it is about $600 cheaper.

Now, you can only finance Kubota & Landpride implements at the Kubota promotional rates, so the dealer has to combine the promo rates with Kubota's implement rates for a slightly higher overall rate if you were to go with the Woods hoe. It still may end up cheaper over the life of the loan, but you'd have to calculate how much that scenario cuts down the $600 savings.

 

[Roadkill95]

Is the BH65 Hoe that comes with the new B's a curved boom hoe? From the pics it don't look like it.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

I'd be shocked if you could put the 70x on at this point. It typicaly takes woods a few months to build mounts once a new machine becomes available.

 

[Ductape]

Would i be correct to assume the current B2782 front blower will mount up to the 20's?

 

[ChuckinNH]

I'd be shocked if you could put a Kubota backhoe, or MMM on right now!

 

[bandit67]

What a difference a day makes. Boy am I quickly souring on the new B2920 based on some preliminary pricing.

I thought the price needed to fall smack dab in the middle between the BX24 and the B3030 TLB version. It does have a number of 'shortcomings' that make the B3030 TLB a far better value and a far superior machine at only $2k more, IMO.

If these figures prove to be the norm, I think Kubota missed the boat on this new TLB offering.

 

[Roadkill95]

I'd be shocked if you could put a Kubota backhoe, or MMM on right now!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Good one Chuck

 

[AKKubota]

What are the dimensions of these new machines? Particularly width.

I just got a quote for a 3030 TLB with all the trimmings (Snow Blow, BB, RB, Tiller) and its a tight fit in my garage space. thx

 

[ChuckinNH]

Overall width with r-4's or Turfs is 49". Overall length w/o 3pt is 95". The wheelbase is a couple of inches longer than the old B7xxx series, but I'm guessing that if one of those would fit, the new ones would too.

 

[elalexander]

Hi all. Sorry to report I did not have my camera with me today... but I did get to sit on a new 2320 on the showroom floor. Awesome machine. I had a stress test at 10:00AM and since I was coming off of last shift I thought I'd stay up and spend some time at the nearby Kubota dealer. I must say I am not as familiar with Kubota's line up as many of you guys are. But, this is one great machine. With a loader, I think LA 304 mid 15's. The dealer said it would/could be a few months before he got the new 2620 and 2920. I liked the new loader lever control mount beside the operator instead of in front and to the right of him. But, and maybe a small but, as I have never had a hydrostatic tranny. How do you guys like the toe/heel pedal on the HST? Where I work our fork trucks have the pedals beside each other and sometimes people get mixed up and go the wrong way. This heel/toe configuration would eliminate that but it just looks awkward. Like I say, maybe it's just me. I do like the idea of having a 3 speed hydro; but I don't know any of you who complained about the 2 speed on models like the 7610. (this was one model I was looking at earlier but felt a gear trany or a three speed hydro would be a better choice). I'm welcome to comments etc.

Also, the more I see a BX24 the more I grin. When I first saw the JD 2305 it looked like a riding mower on steriods and I never took it to seriously. But today, the 3rd time I walked by a BX24 with hoe and FEL for around 15 I was impressed. I'd like to see some bigger tires and clearece but then again that is why I was looking at 7610's and 2630's and the new models.

One last thing. With the hydro pedel and brake on the same side how does that work with independent rear brakes? I'm sure an operators manul would show me but I'd rather know about it before I sign anything. Oh yeah, the dealer told me they had 0% for 3 years going on and most of his models qualify for it.

Any feed back is welcome as I have no knowledge or experience with a HST tractor.

Thanks, EL.

 

[ChuckinNH]

It is pretty easy to get used to the two small pedals for the hydro. The only time I had a problem was when I got back on my riding mower that has the two pedals side by side. I'm not a big fan of having the brakes on the same side as the hydro pedal, but it works. I found a few times I was in a position where I wanted to hold the tractor in position with the hydro while I set the parking brake, and found that difficult. It is easier on the B series than on my older BX.

Often we are doing things behind us on the tractor, and if you turn sideways in the seat, or are looking over your shoulder to monitor what is going on back there, you will find the hydro pedal set up on the B's to be very nice! Make sure you try it in the positions you would be in when actually doing things.

The JD 2320 is very similar in size, and price, and does have the pedals side by side, and the brakes on the other side if you find you prefer that.

The prices I'm hearing on the Kubota 2320 are higher than JD's prices around here, and the msrp for the backhoe is higher than it is for larger ones. (about $7200 with a thumb) I hope that street prices are actually more reasonable once they get out there.

Anyway! It's good to hear that they are showing up here, and there.

 

[elalexander]

Thanks Chuck. I spent some time going over the JD 2320 and 2520 when I go look at the 790, now 3005. I,we like them. There are some dollar differences between the two makers for sure. I was just asking what you guys see. Like the point you made about turning around. May not be a problem for someone say right handed but let a lefty climb up and might be a new set of problems. Even minor ones count at this point.

 

[ChuckinNH]

I liked being able to use that pedal with my heel when lining up the backhoe, or sometimes even using my left foot on the forward pedal when regulating a box blade, etc. Hard to do either with a transmission hump like the B30 series, or with twin pedals.

Though you can't try it in the showroom, make sure you try simultanious lift curl functions, etc. with the loaders on the tractors you are looking at. You will find a big difference in the valving on different tractors. It is nice to be able to "slice" a layer off the front of a pile sometimes...... like when turning compost, and you want to get what was outside on the inner part of the pile you are creating.

 

[bandit67]

Oh yeah, the dealer told me they had 0% for 3 years going on and most of his models qualify for it.

The 0% for 36 months is good on the older B's, but not the brand new B's, not the B7800, nor the deluxe B's (3030, 2630), where up until December, the 0/36 was good on all of the B's. Now the other B's are at 0/24, so not bad, but it should get better again.

Unless you are going with one of the B7x10's (which have 0% and should have very good clearance pricing), you should wait and see what Kubota does with the financing come April 1st - there will probably be 0%/36 on more models again, and the longer term rates and rates on new machines should be lower than it is now, since money is cheaper after the recent rate cuts. I would be surprised to see 0% on the new B2x20's, but it is possible, especially if sales really slow down this quarter.

 

[lawn_king]

Im thinking about jumping up to an L 3540 HSDC. I have 3.9 apr on my current loan with kubota credit corporation, i would hate to loose that rate!

 

[bandit67]

I think you can lose that rate. My previous post was regarding the changes to the B series rates, and I just clarified a few points to avoid confusion.

You can get 0/36 on any Grand L.

Take a look at the following link...
Kubota Tractor Corporation - Promotional Rates

 

[lawn_king]

Thats a great rate, however, i would most likely go 48 months. Im going to have to pay off my existing note, add to that a new 3540 HSDC, fel & front blade, rear remotes & landpride rotary cutter! I think that payment over 36 months will be too rich for my blood?

 

[bandit67]

That's why I'm waiting, because we should see a drop in all of Kubota's rates come April 1st.

 

[SnowRidgeME]

Well I tried a B2920 today! Very pleased! I found my tractor. The engine is smooth running, not as loud as the 2630's, comfortable seat. The sales person hadn't tried it yet either until today, he was impressed, big competition to the JD 2320 was his words, big improvement to the 7610. Only odd design is in regards to the PTO. The selector for selecting Neutral, 540, or mid PTO is also the same lever to engage, i.e., no longer two levers. The clutch needs to be depressed to shift from Neutral, 540, or mid (2500). Also, when the mid is on, the rear is also on rotating at 960RPM, kind of strange for that speed. When the clutch is depressed the PTO stops. Since it is an HST, only time clutch is pressed is to select/engage PTO and to start the tractor.

 

[Ductape]

Only odd design is in regards to the PTO. The selector for selecting Neutral, 540, or mid PTO is also the same lever to engage, i.e., no longer two levers. The clutch needs to be depressed to shift from Neutral, 540, or mid (2500). Also, when the mid is on, the rear is also on rotating at 960RPM, kind of strange for that speed. When the clutch is depressed the PTO stops.

Could you clarify this for me? Are you saying that if i have a pto powered impliment on the rear of the tractor, and engage, say a snowblower on the front pto......... the rear impliment will spin at 960?? I must be misunderstanding something here.