B7610 seat is giving me a bad back.

[53gravely]

Just got a 7610. I now have thirteen hours on it. GREAT little tractor with an AWFUL SEAT.

The high back seat has a couple of flaws:
(1) the suspension springs are too tall in the back leaving the seat tilting forward so the front doesnt' support your thighs.
(2) the padding at the rear-most portion of the horizontal surface of the seat turns up fairly steeply forcing my skinny butt forward giving a recurring wedgie (but the **** operator precence system won't let you stand to de-wedge your knickers!). Sustained operation (anything over an hour) gives me bad back cramps--and I haven't got a history of bad back issues.
Anyone had the same trouble?
Can anyone suggest an aftermarket seat with a defined pocket at the junction of the seatback and the seat to cradle your butt better?

 

[duber34]

Man! I'm sorry for your trouble. I must say though that your post made me laugh out loud. I don't know of an after market seat for you but maybe I have a tip that will serve as temporary relief: You can raise up off the seat to perform any type of wardrobe adjustment without the tractor shutting down if you dis-engage the PTO first. My thinking is: bringing the tractor to a stop in order to adjust is way better than driving around with a wedgie problem. Geez, the thought of the potential chaffing is bringing tears to my eyes right now. Hope you find a seat to your liking.

Regards,
Duber

 

[BoneheadNW]

53gravely-

Now what I am about to say might sound like I am joking but these suggestions are serious. After reading your post (and chuckling a bit) I thought of my comfort while riding in my 7610. First of all, I don't have a skinny butt to worry about but I do know what you are talking about with regard to the seat back.

Secondly, when I operate my tractor I wear jeans or heavy Carhardt pants with a belt. No problem with the wedgie (or Melvin as we used to call it) wearing these clothes. What are you wearing when you have this problem? Loose shorts? If so, be careful catching the FEL control while dismounting the tractor. Another poster revealed his propensity for having the FEL control lever sticking up his shorts leg.

Finally, how about a pillow or towel to sit on? It might be worth a try.

Good luck,

Bonehead

 

[Skidmark25]

I feel your pain. Literally. I have 47 hours on my 7610 I don't use the PTO for anything but the BH so I can adjust with impunity.

I like the previous poster do not have the skinny behind problem but (no pun intended) but I always feel like I am traveling down hill. The only time the seat is remotely comfotrable is when traveling up hill.

Too much cusion on the stock seat. I was goung to look at tractorsmart.com ot TSC to see about a replacement when I got around to it.

Keep the rest of us uncomfortable 7610 owners posted if you find a replacement.

--Skid

 

[btolle]

I had a similar problem with my B7510. I kept sliding forward in the seat.

Someone asked me if I had put anything like Armor All on it. Sure enough, I had sprayed 303 Aerospace Protectant on it in an attempt to take good care of it.

I cleaned the 303 off with some cleaner and the problem is about 80% solved.

At 140 hours I have either squished the padding down or gotten used to it. Either way, I don't seem to have the problem I had with it when it was new.

Bill Tolle

 

[53gravely]

Duber thanks-- I'm usually running the MMM or Brushhog when the offending undertrousers make their move-- VERY inefficient-- to stop,clutch, neutral, stand, pick /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, re-align, sit,seatbelt, clutch, set range,engage blades--see what i'm sayin'?

Bonehead- I was gonna compliment you on your nickname till I saw Skidmark come in after you--you've got competition man!
As far a clothes-- the first 4 days of my vacation were pushing 100 degrees so it's lightweight shorts for me which may be part of the problem. Still a stupid seat design!
As far as sitting on a towel- it may be worth a try--If this keeps up I'll be sitting on a doughnut!

 

[BoneheadNW]

One last suggestion. To go a step further, you could operate your tractor without pants. I'm sure you're thinking, "Bonehead wants me to drive au natural?" No, how about a kilt? Before you laugh, one of the ER docs at a local hospital sees his patients wearing a kilt. He claims it is very comfortable, cool in the summer, and part of his heritage. One thing for sure, it will make any adjustments you may need much easier! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Keep the good sense of humor!

Bonehead

 

[53gravely]

What's the chances the guy's title is "Chief of MacProctology"?

Hey...I've got the kilt my grandfather won the North American highland dancing championship in up in the attic....been packed in mothballs for 80 years. The mothball smell might keep the bugs away when I've got the rollbar lights on! Getting sick of picking the bugs outta da teeth.

 

[botalvr]

Could cutting the springs down a bit help? I own a BX so I don't know about your seat.
Also, is riding cowboy out of the question? Nothing to ride up, and sure would toughen the old boys's ability to ride the range.
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[chevyorange]

Hello,
I own a b7800 and I also have skinny butt at 5'8" and at 150 lbs. What i did was take seat off and and put washers between the seat and hinge bracket which raised the front of the seat up. It helped a lot and was cheep. Now i wish the back of the seat was more forward,but I'll live with it. At least I'm not getting any more wedges and my back isn't bothering me as much. Hope this helps.

 

[BoneheadNW]

dannydan-

I want to thank you for bringing back some childhood memories and making me laugh so hard I cried. Riding cowboy and riding the range, that is beautiful! I haven't heard that in years.

By the way, I see your occupation is dork. Is that anything like a bonehead?

Bonehead

 

[B2400]

Hello 53gravely! You might want to fill in the rest of your Bio so members in your area can help you with specifics. I purchased a suspension seat from Tractor Supply Co. for my B7100 when the original became junk. For $100, it was one of the best investments I made. I had to redrill two holes in the original mounting bracket but other than that it bolted right up. I'd love to put one on my B2400 but the fender cross support in the rear wouldn't allow me to put the seat back far enough(6'3"@250lbs /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

 

[53gravely]

Dannydan- ridin' Cowboy was fine before barbed wire--ouch!
Factory springs are wrapped to a finished flat surface. If I cut them the points would wear thru the seat underside pretty quickly then I'd have to see the guy in the kilt.
Chevyorange's solution with the washers is a good one but the seat still has that slope. I want pure comfort dagnabbit.
2400 is riding in the lap of luxury...but not on the new tractor. There's a lot that could be done if it weren't for the operator presence system--thought of disconnecting but I'm the kind of schmuck that inspired its design.

 

[Haneyrm]

I went home last night and shimmed the front of my seat up with some washers. It still felt like it was heading down hill so I also shimmed up the slider mechanism. Made a huge improvement in the comfort of the seat. Highly recommended and took about 5 minutes to complete.

Mike

 

[jackl]

This has to be one of the best threads I've seen in a while. I have a 7510 and I thought I was the only one with this problem. I'll be watching carefully for solutions to this one. Also, does anyone occasionally turn on the headlights with their knee?

 

[wushaw]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This has to be one of the best threads I've seen in a while. I have a 7510 and I thought I was the only one with this problem. I'll be watching carefully for solutions to this one. Also, does anyone occasionally turn on the headlights with their knee? )</font>

Not anymore with the change to the L2800. I was always turning the headlights on with my knee on my old B7500.
As far as seat comfort the L2800 is not much better than The B7500 I had.

 

[53gravely]

I was on the phone with Kubota service. Nice fella. Recommended I look into OEM (he seemed to think Michigan Seat supplied the original.). I spoke with MSC (who only sells to distribution) --another nice fella . He had me look at thier site:
http://www.mi-seat.com/index.html
...then referred me to Northern Tool. There's a full suspension forklift stat for $300 that looks like a sweet seat but that dang operator's presence system thing.....
I may try hanyrm's shimming solution--under the tracks.

 

[botalvr]

Oh, yep. I think that dorkiness and boneheadedness run hand in hand.
Or is that a dork in the hand is worth - oops, almost got myself on that one there....
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[botalvr]

Yep, that there wire can be a bit painful. One more idea I had is those rubber type things I see inside of truck springs, and on some 4 whell drive truck shows on TV.
Of course they would not be inflated (unless you wanna get fancy), but then they wouldn't cost $300 either.
I would think that they could replace the springs altogether and be pretty comfortable while running in that kilt.
I would watch your top speed in the kilt, don't wanna be listed as a *** offender for open kilting!
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[luvbug]

53 gravely, Sorry to hear about your "marvin" problems, been their to. My wife solved the problems for us by going to Wal*mart and bought a 3/4 inch outdoor fabric seat cushion and some cotton fabric and made a seat cover for the tractor and backhoe seats for about $16.00 and no more "marvins" no matter how hot it is out or how long we stay in the seat. The extra padding also helped on the feeling of being pushed forward.