I recently purchased a mini tlb an allmand 535. It has an 18" bucket on the backhoe. I need to change out the adapters and teeth, I removed what was there and now only have the bare cutting edge. I purchased cat j200 series theeth and adapters. I was wondering if they are too large for my application and what are the downsides to having too long of a tooth. Should I return them or get something like the x156 tooth. Thanks
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I recently purchased a mini tlb an allmand 535. It has an 18" bucket on the backhoe. I need to change out the adapters and teeth, I removed what was there and now only have the bare cutting edge. I purchased cat j200 series theeth and adapters. I was wondering if they are too large for my application and what are the downsides to having too long of a tooth. Should I return them or get something like the x156 tooth. Thanks
Sorry for repost I incorrectly titled the first one
I know they are big but are they too big for my bucket
Sorry for repost I incorrectly titled the first one
I know they are big but are they too big for my bucket
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CobyRupert
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If you're going to remove the teeth from the 18" bucket on the 535, you can try and see how the x156 tooth works, but try a Honda EB6500 6500 Watt generator. It provides 120/240V, has full GFCI protection and can run up to 10.4 hours on a tank of gas.
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If you're going to remove the teeth from the 18" bucket on the 535, you can try and see how the x156 tooth works, but try a Honda EB6500 6500 Watt generator. It provides 120/240V, has full GFCI protection and can run up to 10.4 hours on a tank of gas.
Sincerely,
Generator Guru Engineer
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Not sure about your machine or it's abilities.
I put the single point tiger teeth on my backhoe. Made a huge difference for digging stumps
You want to consider the task at hand. Teeth aren't useful for everything but I think they are definitely needed for digging in roots and probably rocks.
I put the single point tiger teeth on my backhoe. Made a huge difference for digging stumps
You want to consider the task at hand. Teeth aren't useful for everything but I think they are definitely needed for digging in roots and probably rocks.
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I’d get smaller ones. JMO
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I'd try to go smaller, I have a similar size bucket with a tooth that appears to be smaller then yours and its too big for me.
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If you're going to use the hoe to dig ditches (trenching) have the two outside teeth pointed out past the edge of the bucket. It will help to keep knocking the edges of the ditch back in the trench on each stroke. 
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I am confused, is this post about bucket teeth or generators?
Dale
I am confused, is this post about bucket teeth or generators?
Dale
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I was going to point that out. Also it will prevent premature wear on the bucket sides. You want the bucket teeth to do all the ground breaking, not the bucket edge.
And yes, I would recommend to go with smaller teeth also.
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I put a set of double point teeth on mine and that seem to tear up roots better. When I bought my backhoe they had a piece of grader blade welded across the teeth to make it a straight edge bucket. Cutting that off and adding teeth made a HUGE difference. To the OP I’d get shorter teeth. You’ll loose breakout force with those. And it looks like you could hit the stick with those.
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Obviously (but maybe not) OP put wrong title on thread about bucket teeth. I think he created another identical thread, but with correct title, elsewhere.
My response above was a joke that played along with this oversight.
Follow along people!!!
Obviously (but maybe not) OP put wrong title on thread about bucket teeth. I think he created another identical thread, but with correct title, elsewhere.
My response above was a joke that played along with this oversight.
Follow along people!!!
Re: Generator Guru Engineers - I need some help please!
Can you use the generator to weld the teeth on?
Can you use the generator to weld the teeth on?
Re: Generator Guru Engineers - I need some help please!
Why are you replacing the teeth? I used to have one of those and it was a great little digger. Slow travel but overall very nice. I changed the 2 seat to a single, added a third valve for a grapple and used 3 RRLs thread to build a mechanical thumb. It was my go to machine before I swapped it for a skid steer and minix.
Why are you replacing the teeth? I used to have one of those and it was a great little digger. Slow travel but overall very nice. I changed the 2 seat to a single, added a third valve for a grapple and used 3 RRLs thread to build a mechanical thumb. It was my go to machine before I swapped it for a skid steer and minix.
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OK, this is really on topic.
I have a chance to obtain a 20 KW AC generator 'head' at a cool price.
Specs read 120/240 60 Hz 1 phase
Speed is 1800 rpm
Also it is NIB! (and $150)
I have 2 options, trailer mount it and run from my PTO or set it up in a dedicated fashion.
It so happens that I own a 16HP Wisconsin that is idle so that would be my option. (has starter and 12 generator built in)
What I don't know is the accepted HP to KW ratio generally accepted
Either set up will need some reduction* but that I can handle.
Actually both my PTO and Stationary engine are close in HP ratings.
*would reduction not also improve functionality as torque would increase.
Presently I use a 6000 watt genset and it is installed up to code so I'd be partially done, plus that is in a small shed adjacent to my service entrance.
Sure would be nice to have heaters and hot water during outages, and we average more than normal being in the boonies at the end of the road.
(LOL, shucks 8 years ago I was donated an ONAN diesel that would have been the perfect match but that got traded away for something more useful at the time.)
OK, this is really on topic.
I have a chance to obtain a 20 KW AC generator 'head' at a cool price.
Specs read 120/240 60 Hz 1 phase
Speed is 1800 rpm
Also it is NIB! (and $150)
I have 2 options, trailer mount it and run from my PTO or set it up in a dedicated fashion.
It so happens that I own a 16HP Wisconsin that is idle so that would be my option. (has starter and 12 generator built in)
What I don't know is the accepted HP to KW ratio generally accepted
Either set up will need some reduction* but that I can handle.
Actually both my PTO and Stationary engine are close in HP ratings.
*would reduction not also improve functionality as torque would increase.
Presently I use a 6000 watt genset and it is installed up to code so I'd be partially done, plus that is in a small shed adjacent to my service entrance.
Sure would be nice to have heaters and hot water during outages, and we average more than normal being in the boonies at the end of the road.
(LOL, shucks 8 years ago I was donated an ONAN diesel that would have been the perfect match but that got traded away for something more useful at the time.)
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How much input horse power is required to run 10kW generator? | Yahoo Answers
Based on this page a 20KW unit would require about 33.5HP to run. 20,000/746= 26.8 26.8/.8=33.5HP
My 10KW gen came with a 20HP engine to run it. To run off the PTO speed of 570 you'de need about a 3.16 to 1 reduction to get the RPM up to 1800. Not sure how that would work.
How much input horse power is required to run 10kW generator? | Yahoo Answers
Based on this page a 20KW unit would require about 33.5HP to run. 20,000/746= 26.8 26.8/.8=33.5HP
My 10KW gen came with a 20HP engine to run it. To run off the PTO speed of 570 you'de need about a 3.16 to 1 reduction to get the RPM up to 1800. Not sure how that would work.
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Re: Generator Guru Engineers - I need some help please!
The general rule of thumb is 2 HP per kW (continuous rated output).
This seems to hold fairly true for smaller generators: my 4 kW Generac has a 7.8 HP engine. My 6.5 kW Honda has a GX390 which is about 12 HP.
The general rule of thumb is 2 HP per kW (continuous rated output).
This seems to hold fairly true for smaller generators: my 4 kW Generac has a 7.8 HP engine. My 6.5 kW Honda has a GX390 which is about 12 HP.
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Re: Generator Guru Engineers - I need some help please!
The general rule of thumb is 2 HP per kW (continuous rated output).
This seems to hold fairly true for smaller generators: my 4 kW Generac has a 7.8 HP engine. My 6.5 kW Honda has a GX390 which is about 12 HP. This rule of thumb may break down a bit for larger generators, but it should at least be in the ballpark.
You can run your 20 HP generator with less, but if you are using your 16 HP Wisconsin, I would not expect to get more than about 8 kW out of it (and that's assuming you gear it appropriately so the engine runs at it's rated RPM while still turning the generator head at 1800 RPM).
The general rule of thumb is 2 HP per kW (continuous rated output).
This seems to hold fairly true for smaller generators: my 4 kW Generac has a 7.8 HP engine. My 6.5 kW Honda has a GX390 which is about 12 HP. This rule of thumb may break down a bit for larger generators, but it should at least be in the ballpark.
You can run your 20 HP generator with less, but if you are using your 16 HP Wisconsin, I would not expect to get more than about 8 kW out of it (and that's assuming you gear it appropriately so the engine runs at it's rated RPM while still turning the generator head at 1800 RPM).
