Backhoe Tree Root Cutter Winter Project
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ns_in_tex
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No Pics yet. If it works, I will post some.
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On a more serious note, have you seen a compact hydraulic shear as an attachment ?? I saw one here on TBN but it was big, bulky & more designed for cutting smaller trees above the surface rather than buried roots. If you have any other info, please share..
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All seriousness aside, I have never seen a shear other than the one you saw.
I think a BH would be a perfect platform for a nice compact shear. Not only would it be quick and agile at shearing roots, but hey, you could even prune tree branches with it. A 3" capacity would take care of most roots (although you may have to shear them 2-3' away from the stump) and most shaggy branches that hang down in the way. Sounds like it would be a very fun tool to use. Well, we can dream! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
On a more serious note, have you seen a compact hydraulic shear as an attachment ?? I saw one here on TBN but it was big, bulky & more designed for cutting smaller trees above the surface rather than buried roots. If you have any other info, please share..
Eric )</font>
All seriousness aside, I have never seen a shear other than the one you saw.
I think a BH would be a perfect platform for a nice compact shear. Not only would it be quick and agile at shearing roots, but hey, you could even prune tree branches with it. A 3" capacity would take care of most roots (although you may have to shear them 2-3' away from the stump) and most shaggy branches that hang down in the way. Sounds like it would be a very fun tool to use. Well, we can dream! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Ok..I've seen some of the stuff on here you guys have engineered, and I'm wondering why no one has suggested making a root "cutter" instead of a ripper. Pattern it after the tree pruning sheers with bypass beak type blades, add a hydrualic cylinder, and go to town. You could also use it for trimming big limbs off of trees. Of course you would have to have the roots exposed to use it. Impractical? Impossible? Just a thought.
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Just a couple of point against a "root shear":
The shear would work best if its square with the root. Cutting a big root at a 45 degree angle may try to spread the blades. Staying fairly square to all those roots would be a lot of tractor maneuvering.
Some larger stumps have deeper roots you probably couldn't get to with a shear. In fact, even a root breaker may not work as well for a tap root as a normal bucket but at least you can grab the stump and try to pry it loose.
The shear would work best if its square with the root. Cutting a big root at a 45 degree angle may try to spread the blades. Staying fairly square to all those roots would be a lot of tractor maneuvering.
Some larger stumps have deeper roots you probably couldn't get to with a shear. In fact, even a root breaker may not work as well for a tap root as a normal bucket but at least you can grab the stump and try to pry it loose.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'd want it so I could attach it with pins or at most 2 bolts, while still leaving the bucket on. That way, I could rip roots and quickly take it off to use the bucket.
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umm think about that, the bucket is only held on with two pins so why not simply attach it there, instead of puttin added stress on the bucket lip and all, and besides the closer to the boom arm it is the more ripping force you have, i agree that on a fullsized excavator changing a bucket is some real work, i have done it a few times before so i know, a 48 inch bucket can weigh 2000 lbs, however the bucket on a compact tractor can be easily handled by hand most times so its not very hard at all to change
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umm think about that, the bucket is only held on with two pins so why not simply attach it there, instead of puttin added stress on the bucket lip and all, and besides the closer to the boom arm it is the more ripping force you have, i agree that on a fullsized excavator changing a bucket is some real work, i have done it a few times before so i know, a 48 inch bucket can weigh 2000 lbs, however the bucket on a compact tractor can be easily handled by hand most times so its not very hard at all to change
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<font color="blue"> however the bucket on a compact tractor can be easily handled by hand most times so its not very hard at all to change
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For me it would not just be the time it takes to change the bucket (5 to 10 minutes, including time to get the hand tools and put them back) to the ripper and then back to the bucket, but also the time it takes to go where the bucket is, unless I carried the bucket and ripper with me all the time.
Then with my luck, if I tried to carry the bucket or ripper in the front end loader, I would probably end up somehow burying one or the other by mistake, then especially considering the cost of a bucket, I would spend a lot of time looking for it and hopefully finding it...so it just seems like the time requirement could be a lot greater than the bucket change time alone.
So, in my case I would rather risk just loosing the ripper (root cutter) if there was a way to attache/detach it from the bucket, with the bucket staying on the stick all the time. Especially if time was also saved doing it that way.
Perhaps there would be a way to attach something to the front of the bucket, so that leverage was not lost, not too much anyway...
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For me it would not just be the time it takes to change the bucket (5 to 10 minutes, including time to get the hand tools and put them back) to the ripper and then back to the bucket, but also the time it takes to go where the bucket is, unless I carried the bucket and ripper with me all the time.
Then with my luck, if I tried to carry the bucket or ripper in the front end loader, I would probably end up somehow burying one or the other by mistake, then especially considering the cost of a bucket, I would spend a lot of time looking for it and hopefully finding it...so it just seems like the time requirement could be a lot greater than the bucket change time alone.
So, in my case I would rather risk just loosing the ripper (root cutter) if there was a way to attache/detach it from the bucket, with the bucket staying on the stick all the time. Especially if time was also saved doing it that way.
Perhaps there would be a way to attach something to the front of the bucket, so that leverage was not lost, not too much anyway...
Henro...
I'm still working this in my head & the reason for my original post was to ask for ideas & I want to say thanks to you and all that have posted. Further to your posts, I scratched on paper a possible redesign along the lines of what I think that you're talking about. Take a look at the attached pic & tell me whether that's what you're thinking or something else ?? Thanks, Eric
I'm still working this in my head & the reason for my original post was to ask for ideas & I want to say thanks to you and all that have posted. Further to your posts, I scratched on paper a possible redesign along the lines of what I think that you're talking about. Take a look at the attached pic & tell me whether that's what you're thinking or something else ?? Thanks, Eric
