Bandsaw recomendations

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#21  
Thanks for all the replies. I had thought of the portable band saw before, but only as a way to make oddball cuts,when needed. I had an old harbor freight el cheap o band saw, years ago, but it was always having one problem or another. I use a compound chop saw for smaller round, and square stock, but it is not real good for bigger/thicker cuts. I like the look of that Grizzly G9742, and I have several grizzly wood working machines, with no issues. I also like the idea of a vertical saw to make longer tapers in square tubing. I also think I could make small free hand cuts in plate much quicker than with the plasma cutter, just because of the set up time involved. The problem with the Vertical saws, is that they are combo machines, and I can't find one that is in my price range. Keep those ideas comming.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #22  
I think I know why wilton doesnt list them anymore. In the URL bar of the jet site, it says JETWILTON. I think the company that owns jet and powermatic bought out wilton.

Jet, Wilton, and Powermatic have been owned by WHM (Walter Meier Holding) for quite some time now. My guess is to cut costs, WMH is putting Wilton machinery under the Jet brand.

I have this Grizzly:

G9742 5" x 6" Metal-Cutting Bandsaw w/ Swivel Head

It works very well, and I really like the swivel head feature. but the automatic stop switch engagement bolt, I never got to work correctly.
James K0UA

Unfortunately my pictures of my Grizzly don't show the motor shutoff bolt; but I had the same problem as you. I turned the bolt upside down and just kept tweaking it till it works all the time. If I recall correctly, I now have the hex head contact the switch.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #23  
I have a 6 grand Roll-In but they prefer the cheapie.

If we want to go all out, why not opt for a Roll-In. I have one in the shop and the basic model is 5 grand.

It sounds like your Roll-In is just sitting there collecting dust and rusting away. I'll give you $500 for it and you pay the shipping. :laughing:
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #24  
I just went through the same process wanting a band saw...
I went up to the barn where my retired farmer dad had stored a lot of his old equipment and harvested an old Buffalo band saw...
This sucker was so old it was made in Taiwan but the specs are identical to the newer ones made in China...
I believe that the serial date of manufacture stated 1983...
Well...
I went to Northern tool, bought a couple of blades, a can of PB Blaster, and some WD 40...
Put on the blade and adjusted everything up...
The saw purrs like a kitten...
Replaced an on/off switch...
Pop had straight-wired the thing...
Good cheap tool...
Cuts great...
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #25  
I just went through the same process wanting a band saw...
I went up to the barn where my retired farmer dad had stored a lot of his old equipment and harvested an old Buffalo band saw...
This sucker was so old it was made in Taiwan but the specs are identical to the newer ones made in China...
I believe that the serial date of manufacture stated 1983...
Well...
I went to Northern tool, bought a couple of blades, a can of PB Blaster, and some WD 40...
Put on the blade and adjusted everything up...
The saw purrs like a kitten...
Replaced an on/off switch...
Pop had straight-wired the thing...
Good cheap tool...
Cuts great...

I love it.... "so old it was made in Taiwan, not China"....

I'm obviously of the generation where 'Made in America' is quality and Taiwan and China and anywhere over there is synonomus with junk.

I guess I need to get with the new attitudes.

Anyone have a spare pair of chopsticks???
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #26  
I love it.... "so old it was made in Taiwan, not China"....

I'm obviously of the generation where 'Made in America' is quality and Taiwan and China and anywhere over there is synonomus with junk.

I guess I need to get with the new attitudes.

Anyone have a spare pair of chopsticks???

I dont think it is just your generation. I am 14 and have the same attitude.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #27  
The larger the portion of profit in any given product, regardless of its country of origin, the lesser the quality we might expect. In today's economy, where profits are generally unlike anything in memory, finding quality has become quite a challenge.

My used Enco bandsaw for $50 was more than I could have hoped for as a value. It works great.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #28  
I love it.... "so old it was made in Taiwan, not China"....

I'm obviously of the generation where 'Made in America' is quality and Taiwan and China and anywhere over there is synonomus with junk.

I guess I need to get with the new attitudes.

Anyone have a spare pair of chopsticks???

I know you hate foreign made chicom stuff. you must hate your Kubota:laughing: :D
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #29  
I know you hate foreign made chicom stuff. you must hate your Kubota:laughing: :D

Candidly, I don't hate anyone or anything except maybe my ex wife......:D

My Kubota's are all about not being able to purchase a late model domestically made tractor (not that there are any). in the class that I require.

and.... Kubota and other offshore produced makes (yours as well) have a domestic presence and employ Americans in those facilities and they didn't put anyone out of business bringing in foreign junk, unlike Jet tanking Wilton or Grizzly buying the assets of South Bend Lathe and then prostituting the tradename on a oriental machine.

I'm as guilty as the next guy when it comes to the most bang for my buck, but, at some point we all need to take a long hard look at where this 'World Class Manufacturing' and supporting third world economies has gotten us and more importantly, where it's taking us.

You don't buy 30 grand cars and 150 grand homes working at a fast food emporium, let alone a 30 grand tractor and that's where this economy is headed, like it or not.

I make a deliberate effort to buy domestic as much as possible. All the materials my company uses are domestically produced and most of my machine tools are of domestic orign, not all, but most. It would be all but we've lost so much manufacturing base here to lower cost foreign competition that some items are only available in off shore brands.... and that really holds true in a production versus cost scenario. When you are competiting with foreign manufacturing (and I do), you either build a better mousetrap, lower your upfront operating costs, or both and the alternative is ceasing doing business, something that's happened to a whole raft of American manufacturers.

I've survived (so far) because I run lean and mean. I've built a better mousetrap and I constantly watch manufacturing processes for ways to increase efficiency, so yes, I get incensed about foreign junk, when, in fact, it's junk and it all isn't, by any means.

People today are conditioned to accept offshore as quality (and it oftentimes is) without thought as to the impact on them and their country and it's manufacturing base and how it will effect their lives and especially the lives of future generations.........

So I have my Kubota's and I drive a Suzuki (GM Tracker with Suzuki drivetrain) and I ride and own numerous motorcycles of British manufacture but I'm always aware of the end game as everyone in this country needs to be..... but isn't.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #30  
Say someone does succeed with a small business in manufacturing here. As soon as that is noticed, he or she will get the buyout offer that probably won't be refused. That will come from the 1% that has little allegiance to anything but the bottom line and their offshore bank accounts. So, expect that manufacturing business to go where the labor isn't us (at least until we become them). We keep fighting wars to export this business model. It should be no surprise it's what we have.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #31  
Countless smaller production shops have been bought out by offshore companies or taken over. It's an everyday occurence and it's destroying the very base that made this country what it is.

The vision, if you will, of the current administration (and past administrations) is that of a service orientated economy. Problem is, is that very few workers in that type of society are paid an equitable, living wage.

I'm constantly receiving e-mails from offshore entities concerning my business. They all go in the trash que that runs with my firewall. When the time comes that I can no longer turn out a quality product at a reasonable cost, I'll take my designs and quit doing business altogether.

The vision of past generations (coming to America to earn good wages and have a standard of living above where they came from) is getting to be a distant memory.

We sure did veer off the bandsaw recomendations thread the OP asked.

I'd like to see the OP get a nice American Made Roll-In but in reality, what home shop operator can afford 5 grand for a bandsaw. Not many I suspect.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #32  
Well, if you know your English bikes, you saw what happened to their manufacturing base even before ours went down. In the big Monopoly game in the sky, we're lucky if we ever pass Go. The only rule is we can't quit the game until the winners have everything, and we we should be happy eating cake (of a major brand, of course).
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #33  
I know you hate foreign made chicom stuff. you must hate your Kubota:laughing: :D

+1 :thumbsup:

Candidly, I don't hate anyone or anything except maybe my ex wife......:D

I bet she hates you too. :laughing:

and.... Kubota and other offshore produced makes (yours as well) have a domestic presence and employ Americans in those facilities and they didn't put anyone out of business bringing in foreign junk, unlike Jet tanking Wilton or Grizzly buying the assets of South Bend Lathe and then prostituting the tradename on a oriental machine.

Wilton, Jet, and Powermatic are owned by WMH (Walter Meir Holding) and I suspect they are moving machinery to the Jet name due to greater brand name recognition of Jet for machinery than Wilton. It also keeps costs down only having to paint and badge the same thing for one brand instead of two.

I do agree with your assessment of Grizzly acquiring the South Bend name.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #34  
It seems south bend still makes lathes in the usa....
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #35  
Uh... the op needs a bandsaw, not a history lesson. I like Grizzly for the price. Delta makes a nice one as does Jet (prob. the same Co.) If you can catch a factory closing down, maybe get a 3-phase and change out the motor. C L is another option, or e-bay....You kinda get what you pay for in my opinion...get what you can afford.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #36  
ok in response to my last post, it seems all southbend lathes are made in taiwan. But they stopped making them in the USA long before grizzly. In fact, the lathes sold to the US NAVY in the 80s or 90s, were made in spain, with american electrics. They are still very good machines now, but not made in the USA.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #37  
In as much as I have 3 South Bend vintage (made in USA) machines, all restored by the way, I'm glad you came to the realization that the current crop of South Bend machines have nothing in common with the original company except the name which was purchased by an enterprising individual to place on chi-com machinery, one reason I would never purchase anything from him or his company.... Grizzly

South Bend had a rocky history becoming an ESOP and eventually liquidating to LeBlond who sold the last remaining hard stock and the name to Mr, Balola, who, obviously (at least in my eyes) has no scruples.

Yes, SB lathes, the Turnado line was made in Spain, howeverm SB still offered refit services on domestic made machines up until about 5 years ago. I had a lathe bed levelled and scraped in their facility in '02.

I also own a LeBlond Servo Shift and a Monarch 10EE, both fine American made machines, made back when American craftsmanship was supreme.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #38  
Uh... the op needs a bandsaw, not a history lesson. I like Grizzly for the price. Delta makes a nice one as does Jet (prob. the same Co.) If you can catch a factory closing down, maybe get a 3-phase and change out the motor. C L is another option, or e-bay....You kinda get what you pay for in my opinion...get what you can afford.

Uh...History is a nice thing to know. Gives you insight into what is and what is to be.

We all expressed our opinions to the OP long ago, in spades. As usual, the thread wandered, this time into history and the demise of this country as an industrialized nation.

Yes, all the same. All come via container from a foreign port different paint but all the same workings.... and some fat cat businessman getting rich because you accept junk for good.

In the past you got what you paid for but now, that's questionable. reminds me of a video I saw a while ago, of kids in some arab country making ammunition on a rock with wood sticks and crude tools.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cabelas sells it.:laughing:
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #39  
Just received a catalog in the mail with saws starting at under $300... imported of course... they also sell the good stuff too...

Enco $279, Wilton, Rollin,Grob... didn't see any DoAlls...


Irvan-Smith, Inc. : Racing and Sheet Metal Fabrication Equipment

I just bought a couple of inner tubes from them... have not bought anything else...

As to Lathes... I always wanted a nice LeBlond for the garage... it would last me a lifetime...

My belt 10" SouthBend is just a little bit to small all around for my use... I'm still able to do a lot going slow.
 
   / Bandsaw recomendations #40  
Just received a catalog in the mail with saws starting at under $300... imported of course... they also sell the good stuff too...

Enco $279, Wilton, Rollin,Grob... didn't see any DoAlls...


Irvan-Smith, Inc. : Racing and Sheet Metal Fabrication Equipment

I just bought a couple of inner tubes from them... have not bought anything else...

As to Lathes... I always wanted a nice LeBlond for the garage... it would last me a lifetime...

My belt 10" SouthBend is just a little bit to small all around for my use... I'm still able to do a lot going slow.

I believe DoAll is done. Roll-In and Grob are domestic. I know personally, the owner of Roll-In Saw, I worked for him for many years. Roll-In is out of Cleveland, Ohio and Grob is south of Findlay, Ohio. That's why I have a Roll-In. I know what is under the sheet metal.

Only the smallest LeBlond's were single phase, The Servo Shift is frequency drive, 3 phase as is the 10EE.

I have a restored workshop belt drive, a Heavy 10 and a benchtop shaper. I use the workshop regularly for modelmaking. Has a 3c handwheel closer and a QC box. The 10 and the shaper are eye candy.

I told my wife when I pass, there will be one heck of a sale and someone is going to get some nice American made machinery. Gee, I even have Lincoln (Euclid, Ohio) welders in TIG and MIG.

Lets not forget about the vintage Atlas floor lathe in pristine condition in the corner, completely tooled, even a toolpost grinder thats never been used and a complete set of Williams toolholders in the original case.....
I won't get into all the Starrett and Brown and Sharpe tools I have or the Gerstner boxes they get stored in.....:)
 

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