Barn to workshop

[Larstan]

BillCroasmun,

Thanks, I think that would probably work, just that I am really nervous about picking the whole barn up and undermining, while trying to support it with temporary supports. Thats why I was leaning toward the sunken pylon thing. I could do one at a time, support it on both sides of the digging point remove the existing pier, use PHD, dig in at an angle then move inside and do the same. The ground around the barnshop is really unstable for digging trenches, I dug the trench for the sub panel and the sides just kept collapsing in. Would be a long process as I would have 20 individual concrete jobs essentially.

 

[ocaj11]

You might want to look into helical piers. They can be screwed into the ground around the perimeter and the beams can be supported on top of those piers.

 

[Larstan]

Thanks Ocaj11,

I knew someone would come up with something cool, I'll check'em out.

 

[EddieWalker]

Larry,

I've been pondering your situation withuot much success.

The joists that are lying down horizontally are acting as your support for your walls. These joists are sitting on dry dirt, or that was the original plan. In some of your pictures there are some concrete blocks built up to support them. I'm wondering if you couldnt dig a footing under them, put in some rebar, with sections of the rebar exposed past the pour, and do it in stages.

They build Hoover Dam in stages, so your barn shouldn't be a problem.

If you go this route, I'd also consider removing those joists all together since the concrete would replace their purpose. You might have to elevate the concret to the bottom of your support beams, but that would be too hard with large sono tubes or wood frames.

Sorry I'm not more helpful. You have a unique situation that is very interesting. Wish I was close just to see it in person.

Eddie

 

[Larstan]

Hey Eddie,

Attached is a shot of the south wall base.

(I'm wondering if you couldnt dig a footing under them, put in some rebar, with sections of the rebar exposed past the pour, and do it in stages.)

So are you suggesting say, that I dig in between the supports the way it sits now? I guess I had not thought that simply. I had thought about pulling the inner horizontal joists and just sinking a concrete pier under those as the joists don't support anything but the main uprights. But the perimeter joists are supporting wall studs as well.

Thanks for your input it has actually been quite helpful, I wish you could take a look also it always helps to have another perspective.

Thanks again,

 

[Larstan]

So I got tired of staring at the foundation wondering what I am gonna do so I decided to do a little tractoring /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif. Here is the before shot.

 

[Larstan]

This is after about 9 hrs, mostly box blade work with and without the rippers on. I have been needing a place to park everything out of the way so I don't have to keep moving things. Very relaxing, good way to spend some time pondering a problem /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

 

[Larstan]

Another view,

 

[EddieWalker]

Larry,

I take back everything I said earlier.

The picture showing the way they built the wall and how its supported really has me wondering why bother with doing anything to it. If it's not broke, don't fix it.

That joist looks totally straight and flat. Anything you do to it will just cause more damage then good.

Eddie

 

[Larstan]

So you think it would be O.K. without being tied down? It obviously has weathered not being tied down to this point, it just makes me nervous for some reason /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif. This was one of the options floating thru my skull, I was thinking that if I left it as it sits I'd still want some kind of floor (I hate working in dirt) I was looking at another project and a guy mentioned Polypavement.com, have you ever had any experiance with it. Looks pretty good on paper and I figure about a 1/4 the cost of trying to slab this place.