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GM demand for magnet components re-opens a rare-earth mine in California

This is big.
Although development of permanent magnets originated in the US, the country has virtually no capacity to produce sintered NdFeB magnets.

MP owns and operates the Mountain Pass mine, the only rare earth mining and processing site of scale in North America. The company is the largest producer of rare earth materials in the Western Hemisphere, producing approximately 15% of the rare earth content consumed in the global market in 2020.

MP’s initial magnetics facility, using material sourced from its California mine, will have the capacity to produce approximately 1,000 tonnes of finished NdFeB magnets per year, with the potential to power approximately 500,000 EV motors annually.
This is located between Los Angeles and Las Vegas on I-15 and near the southern entrance to Death Valley. I've been through there a few times so I just now looked on Google Maps. Looking at 'Molycorp Mountain Pass' (the prior operator) then its Google reviews, there's a part of the story not shown in today's news articles: the previous operator went bankrupt when ordered to clean up all the hazardous waste he generated. And nobody lives there because of residual radiation, it's safer to commute in. See the Review in the map's left column posted by Jack O'Connor. Excerpt:
They are/were a Rare-Earth-Mining LLC sitting on one of the largest and most abundant rare earth deposits in the world, rivaled mainly by only China. The Bastnasite ore they mine contains a group of elements called Lanthanides i.e. lanthanum, neodymium, praseodymium, europium, cerium, and several more that are CRITICAL in today's high-tech- lifestyle involving; smart phones, super-magnets, water purification, and defense contracts just to name a few. They used to be the world's main supplier of rare- earth elements.
Looks like this is the first step in getting away from China's monopoly.
 
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..... the previous operator went bankrupt when ordered to clean up all the hazardous waste he generated. And nobody lives there because of residual radiation.....

Looks like this is the first step in getting away from China's monopoly.
Re-shore Industry.

Clean Air and Water, etc. (said seriously).

One of the challenges in doing both well, is it's inconvenient (and more often, expensive) to do. Big Money No Like.

IMO, the only real way to level this playing field is hold PRC (and the rest of the world) to the same pollution standards we have to meet here.

Otherwise...... pollution gets used as a Competitive Advantage.

Rgds, D.
 
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GM demand for magnet components re-opens a rare-earth mine in California

This is big.

This is located between Los Angeles and Las Vegas on I-15 and near the southern entrance to Death Valley. I've been through there a few times so I just now looked on Google Maps. Looking at 'Molycorp Mountain Pass' (the prior operator) then its Google reviews, there's a part of the story not shown in today's news articles: the previous operator went bankrupt when ordered to clean up all the hazardous waste he generated. And nobody lives there because of residual radiation, it's safer to commute in. See the Review in the map's left column posted by Jack O'Connor. Excerpt:

Looks like this is the first step in getting away from China's monopoly.
Yeah maybe, but if the waste is super hazardous and expensive to clean up because of our EPA standards, who would want to mine it? Will they be able to sustain a rare earth mining business if China can mine it cheaper because they can break all the rules we have here in the US?
 
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This is the biggest problem with EVs:
When we chose to eliminate ICEV and turn solely to EVs, we are competing with the Chinese in their wheelhouse. The batteries and electronics are their strength, not ours.
If we stay with ICEVs, we stay in our wheelhouse because it’s more petroleum fuel based, which we have perfected.
So now we are about to abandon petroleum based vehicles, which have been cleaned up considerably and could be even more. This will cause a much greater dependency on China, which we have seen in recent events, to be a risky way to live.
 
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IMO, the only real way to level this playing field is hold PRC (and the rest of the world) to the same pollution standards we have to meet here.
Exactly!
 
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Interesting how Austin TX just became the headquarters of Tesla. Sodium based batteries might be a better option for solar energy storage than lithium.
 
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When It Comes to Buses, Will Hydrogen or Electric Win?

This article does a good job of explaining why lithium ion batteries have an advantage over hydrogen fuel cells in the current technology available today.

Ships planes and trains may have to wait as the technologies evolve.
 
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I had to laugh at a Tesla pulling out of a gas station this morning.
 
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Just out of curiosity, Gale...do you own stock in Tesla or another EV company?
Sure seems like it...
Why do you think your stock ownership is any of my business?
 
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I see more and more Teslas on the road, we will be seeing many F150's Lightnings very soon and this is just the beginning. I guess the EV market will get a taste of how Mr. Henry Ford felt back in the beginning of the combustion engine days. Rock on
 
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