Bending Metal?? Looking for some advice

   / Bending Metal?? Looking for some advice #21  
In a former life, I worked with a team who twisted RR cars back into aliment with heat and lots of force. With that experience, I'll stick with my 1st suggestion. :unsure:
o_O :rolleyes::unsure:
 
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As a novice, I'm not quite sure what 'Gouge rig' means. Doing a search, it seems like some type of welding approach?
Here's what I think is a good explanation of arc gouging.
 
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We have a Kioti CK30HST with a KB2375 backhoe. The other day, the bottom pin for the boom fell out, and lots of damage occurred. Right/left swing hydraulic pistons busted (and have since been repaired), but the current damage is the bent upper pin.

I'm looking for some advice as to how to repair this. I have a sledge hammer. :) but not sure that's the right approach. One thought I had was to heat up the top portion and then give it some gentle whacks. Another thought would be to simply cut off the bent portions, have new ones made or straighten out the cut off pieces, and then weld the parts back on.

Would love to hear other thoughts. Thank you!!!
As a life long but now retired professional welder I would use a Bessey style C clamp ( the sliding bar style) and a heating tip. Clamp it at the tip and start heating and tightening as it starts to move. This in not a major repair but a half hour job.
 
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I like the Panamaguy approach. I do not see the value of cutting a notch. If heated in the right area and gradually increasing the clamping force you should be able to straighten the plate without doing so much damage. You are unlikely to get as good a weld (and as strong a structure) by doing fresh welding at home...and unless you are an expert welding/fabrication guy you'd really be better off letting a very experienced shop do it for you.
 
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long heavy pipe, slide it over it and pry it if possible. otherwise use your FEL with a fork mast and pry down on it. Heating it might take the temper out and make it weaker. Harbor Freight shop press last resort?
 
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We have a Kioti CK30HST with a KB2375 backhoe. The other day, the bottom pin for the boom fell out, and lots of damage occurred. Right/left swing hydraulic pistons busted (and have since been repaired), but the current damage is the bent upper pin.

I'm looking for some advice as to how to repair this. I have a sledge hammer. :) but not sure that's the right approach. One thought I had was to heat up the top portion and then give it some gentle whacks. Another thought would be to simply cut off the bent portions, have new ones made or straighten out the cut off pieces, and then weld the parts back on.

Would love to hear other thoughts. Thank you!!!
I would use a big clamp and heat. Heat the top plate only and tighten the clamp to get it straight enough to remove the pin. Take the boom off so you can get to it to fix it properly. It looks like the bottom side plate is still straight. The boom side can be straighten with heat and hammer. Look over for cracks and weld if needed. You may have to weld gussets to both plates if there is room to add strength back into the metal. Anytime you heat and bend that much the metal will weaken. Throw the old pin away and replace with a new one. If you are not a good welder get someone who is to do the welding.
 
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Rosebud tip on your torch will put a lot of heat over a larger area. That can be reshaped like it's made of butter, easy with the right tip on the torch. It's tough to cherry up a larger area of thick steel when your trying to use a burning nozzle on a torch. If that is all you have, try and make it work. But the rosebud is the way to go. Bending it cold stresses it. Heat it good and you'll stress it very little.

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Rosebud tip on your torch will put a lot of heat over a larger area. That can be reshaped like it's made of butter, easy with the right tip on the torch. It's tough to cherry up a larger area of thick steel when your trying to use a burning nozzle on a torch. If that is all you have, try and make it work. But the rosebud is the way to go. Bending it cold stresses it. Heat it good and you'll stress it very little.

Rosebud tips on Amazon
The issue with larger rosebud tips is that can draw acetylene faster than a single bottle can safely supply. Not a problem with propane fuel gas, however.
 
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The issue with larger rosebud tips is that can draw acetylene faster than a single bottle can safely supply. Not a problem with propane fuel gas, however.
I've never ran to any issues, but I do run unusually large TW size tanks, 350 CU/FT. My buddy works at a gas tank filling station and got me the tanks free, I had to pay to have them sent out to be pressure tested and refurbished with new paint and valves. The nice thing is that they last forever being that I am not a business, the bad thing is that when I need them filled... it costs an arm and leg. I am about due to have them sent out again for the 10 year recertification.
 
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Helloworld88,

First response. OUCH, this is going to be tough to fix and probably expensive.

Before doing anything, ask your local Kioti dealer if they have had similar experience and what fix is.
Ask your local car body repair shop their opinion on fixing this. They usually have experience and tools for straightening bent car frames.
I don't see a location for your profile so you may or may not have these two options:
If you live near an implement fabricator then they might be able to help since they have tools and skills to bend heavy metal.
Lastly, if you live near a heavy equipment repair shop, they repair excavators, bucket loaders, and large backhoes that tear up their buckets, dippers, lift arms, etc

If the above does not provide any solutions then I suggest the following two routes since the lower plate does not appear bent with yonglihaomachinery;
First choice since upper and lower plates are clearly welded to a common point.

Cut the upper plate off machine, ahead of the reinforcement between upper and lower plates, since it is already damaged. This will allow you to remove backhoe and gives you workspace to properly fix damage.

You may now be able to flatten the lower plate using hydraulic press ( preferred method ) but be careful not to work too near the pin bore otherwise you may elongate the bore OR you may have to have a new plate fabricated including pin bore ( which will not be fun ).
Have your local metal yard fabricate a second plate to stack on top of flattened plate but with overly large hole where pin passes through. Second plate is to reinforce plate directly below it since upper plate is what takes all the load when trying to curl bucket down into ground.

Place a new straight pin in existing lower plate and place upper flattened plate onto pin with temporary blocking between upper and lower plate to hold correct spacing dimension before welding and during welding. Welding heat is going to try to bend/twist the upper plate. Measure and check alignment many times and then tack weld. Recheck dims and make sure pin isn't being twisted in upper/ lower bores and then fully weld. Allow to cool with clamps on.
Remove clamps and add reinforcement plate to upper now welded plate. Reclamp and tack, recheck pin for binding again. Fully weld.


Second choice since you could damage the lower plate by working on upper plate
First you need to get the backhoe off the machine to give yourself room to work and you don't damage something else while bending, banging, and heating. Can you clamp the upper and lower together to release the pivot pin with really beefy C clamp or a hydraulic clamp?

After backhoe off machine then put the pivot pin back into the hole to keep upper and lower bore aligned.
Here is where going gets tough. If you try to bend the upper plate down by clamping the upper and lower then you may end up bending both plates. If you heat the upper plate to bend it down, you need to make certain you don't twist it otherwise the upper and lower bores won't line up.

Good luck on your fix.
For the bent upper pin, using a sledgehammer may not be the best approach, as it could cause further damage. Heating the area to soften the metal could work, but it requires care to avoid warping. Cutting off the bent portion, having new pins made, or attempting to straighten them would be a more controlled method. Afterward, welding the new or repaired pieces back in place could restore the functionality. It’s important to ensure the alignment is correct during the repair to avoid future issues. Consulting a professional or machinist may be beneficial for precision.
 

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