Bent SSQA plates/hands - what are my options?

[4570Man]

The only part allowing synchronization is the cross tube. Without that, the cylinders would move willy-nilly depending on the drag of the pins and cylinders. The power/pressure will take the path that's easier FIRST then balance if the weight is balanced. I'd like to see you lift something without the cross tube.

The cross tube is really only there to hold the plates inline to make attaching it easier. It’s not nearly strong enough to truly synchronize the cylinders. It relies on the bucket to hold them aligned.

 

[bindian]

Even that is not permanent. If an attachment comes off one side it will twist the welded cross tube.

This is the OP's picture, the cross tube is definitely twisted as shown by the added red and black lines not being parallel:

I meant to say more permanent compared to pushing it into a tree.
hugs, Brandi

 

[JWR]

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I WAS WRONG !!! SORRY. Apologies to all. Was thinking of the other cross tube instead of the one that matters here. Duh. My bad.
Of course all who said the cross tube (e.g. the one between the two plate brackets) is bent or twisted are obviously correct.
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Even that is not permanent. If an attachment comes off one side it will twist the welded cross tube.

This is the OP's picture, the cross tube is definitely twisted as shown by the added red and black lines not being parallel:

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[bindian]

Nope. That would also be true if one of the cylinders was stuck or impeded. It is so simple to just test it by running the joystick far right and far left and seeing if the cylinders (and pads) will travel normally or not. This is all pointless conjecture until that gets done. The OP has still not come back to us...

From the OP..........One of my employees says she noticed the front bucket wasn't hanging right - no idea how much work had been done with the bucket hanging on the left side of the SSQA only. It bent the plate downwards. I can still muscle attachments on but it is no longer anything resembling "quick" attachment"

That tells me in no uncertain terms that they were using the loader and attachment as "normal".

Are you are inferring that one cylinder is strong enough to twist the cross tube, if the other cylinder has stopped moving?
hugs, Brandi

 

[JWR]

From the OP..........One of my employees says she noticed the front bucket wasn't hanging right - no idea how much work had been done with the bucket hanging on the left side of the SSQA only. It bent the plate downwards. I can still muscle attachments on but it is no longer anything resembling "quick" attachment"

That tells me in no uncertain terms that they were using the loader and attachment as "normal".

Are you are inferring that one cylinder is strong enough to twist the cross tube, if the other cylinder has stopped moving?
hugs, Brandi

Good grief !! Thank you bindian for hitting me up side the head ! I was off/wrong on all my posts in this thread up to now. Embarrassing.

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I WAS WRONG !!! SORRY. Apologies to all. Was thinking of the other cross tube instead of the one that matters here. Duh. My bad.
Of course all who said the cross tube (e.g. the one between the two plate brackets) is bent or twisted are obviously correct.

Yes, I am slinking off into a corner and shutting up...
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[4570Man]

Are you are inferring that one cylinder is strong enough to twist the cross tube, if the other cylinder has stopped moving?
hugs, Brandi

A cylinder really can’t just stop unless the rod is severely bent. There’s no use in debating how it got bent anyway since it obviously happened when the bucket came unlatched on one side. But yes if you chained up one side the cylinders are plenty strong enough to twist the cross bar. The cross bar is only like 1” pipe and maybe 2” pipe for larger tractors. Here’s my skid steer plate for comparison.

 

[BobInSD]

Is it the same problem that this guy had? His seemed to fix w/out cutting or welding

 

[bindian]

The cross tube is really only there to hold the plates inline to make attaching it easier. It’s not nearly strong enough to truly synchronize the cylinders. It relies on the bucket to hold them aligned.

If this is true and you have worn linkages and/or bushings, moving the curl or dump without the attachment on could cause the linkages to bind and could throw the "hands" out of alignment.
Maybe that is what is happening to all these wood block or tree fixes.

Edit.................if you have linkages to wear. Smaller tractors usually don't have linkages.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

Is it the same problem that this guy had? His seemed to fix w/out cutting or welding

The video guy stated he will weld on reinforcements. Otherwise you will have to keep "repairing it like Roustabout stated on the first page of this thread............I've fixed that three times a day on occasion
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

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I WAS WRONG !!! SORRY. Apologies to all. Was thinking of the other cross tube instead of the one that matters here. Duh. My bad.
Of course all who said the cross tube (e.g. the one between the two plate brackets) is bent or twisted are obviously correct.
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I read your post and looked up at what thread I was in and I thought...........oh no, I am in the Kubota forum.
My KMW ML275 loader has a 2.5 in diameter tube that is 1/4" wall. The hydraulics won't twist that tube. I tried to do that to fix it when my grapple snagged an unseen stump and popped a latch open and the grapple leverage twisted my tube. It had to be cut and welded. So again, so sorry for intruding into a Kubota thread.
hugs, Brandi