Best all around gun?

   / Best all around gun? #111  
imy wife carries a t85 tarus 38 snub revolver, I carry .380.. but at home, there is a .38 S&W on my night stand.

soundguy

Yeah...got a little Taurus 85 in my pocket right now...

Obviously, any Bad Guys that read TBN will now know whose homes NOT to visit!!
 
   / Best all around gun? #112  
Yeah...got a little Taurus 85 in my pocket right now...

Obviously, any Bad Guys that read TBN will now know whose homes NOT to visit!!

:thumbsup:......:laughing:........as I look at my Taurus PT140, S&W40 by my side too.......;)
 
   / Best all around gun? #113  
To the original poster, you live very close to me. Our state has some pretty peculiar firearm and DNR laws that can get you in a lot of trouble very fast.

Basically, I will summarize as follows:

The only way you can be armed at all times (with a loaded firearm), even on your own land (at any time of the year) is by carrying a PISTOL under authority of a CPL. That pistol could be a revolver, colt 1911 style pistol, or it could be a folding stock type rifle which has a minimum length of 26.5" and a maximum (folded) length of <30" with a 16" barrel. Yes, you heard that right.

Long guns of any sort may not be carried in any vehicle without being unloaded, taken down or cased. That is not much good for self defense. Get caught with a rifle lying on your tailgate (while putting it in the case) and it is a misdemeanor firearm citation. That can cost you your CPL and thereby the means to be able to defend yourself on your own land.

Long guns can be prohibited by the DNR during game seasons (such as now - deer season in the shotgun zone), unless you are in possession of an appropriate deer license with unused kill tag.

The same applies if you do not have a CPL and you openly carry your pistol on your own land. Without a valid deer hunting license and unused tag, you will be cited for unlicensed hunting. Many people do not think this applies on your own land, but they are wrong. Get caught with a true "rifle" in the field (308, 3006, 223 or whatever) and you get a firearms citation too, in addition to the unlicensed hunting citation. 2 misdemeanor offenses. This can be serious trouble for firearms ownership.

So do a CPL class and follow the 3-4 month process (if you don't already have one), then you are in the clear.

If you want to get a "Michigan Pistol" (one of the 26.5-30" long rifles) you better hurry, since Lansing is already editing the law to try to close that loophole. Our masters want their subjects to be as defenseless as legally possible...
 
   / Best all around gun? #114  
just to be clear. if I fire in self defense.. it will be just that.

I'm not overly worried about a replaceable piece of property.. my family on the other hand.. or my safety.. well.. some perp will have to be darn tough, fight hard, adn be bullet proof ... i've got nothing to loose when fighting for the defense of my friends and loved ones... the perp has everything to loose.

soundguy


Well said.

James K0UA
 
   / Best all around gun? #115  
scrATCH MICHIGAN OFF PLACES TO LIVE!
 
   / Best all around gun? #116  
This is what I am looking at getting to solve the problem (as long as the law allows).
CAI GALIL GOLANI SPORTER Rifle cal 5.56 .223 NEW : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com

or here Detailed info provided by GunForAll

Manufacture Product Number: SCNAM1: CIA SCNAM2: RITAC ITATR: *Semi-Automatic ITATR2: *223 Remington/5.56 NATO ITATR3: *21 inch ITATR4: *35 + 1 ITATR5: *Single Stage ITATR6: *Lever ITATR7: *38 inch Open/29 inch Folded ITATR8: *8.13 lbs ITATR9: *Steel ITATR0: * MSRP is: MSRP: $781.08 Your cost is:$572.24
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I am not familiar with Century's quality on this weapon, but I carried the same thing for 2 years while in the Engineering Corps in South Africa and is is basically an "improved" AK74 with more consistent fit and finish and a bit better accuracy. The folding stock is well designed and it has good sling swivels built in. I carried mine for over 1800 miles of mine detection, along with a couple of rifle grenades and 200 rounds of ammo and it kept me alive.... It has good flip up night sights, but they have an "expiration date", so wouldn't know what to expect in terms of life..
 
   / Best all around gun? #117  
I hear ya, but its not California, IL or NY state and lets not even mention DC. Its still far from perfect though. Make one mistake and your toast for life. That seems to be the lawmakers ultimate plan.

scrATCH MICHIGAN OFF PLACES TO LIVE!
 
   / Best all around gun? #118  
i'm likeing florida more and more every day.
 
   / Best all around gun? #119  
Lets not forget that Florida got the CPL thing going again and showed he country that armed law abiding citizens add nothing to the background crime rate and may lower it by deterrent effect.

The Florida governor also recently enacted legislation to prosecute local government officials who try to circumvent state preemption law by enacting their own firearm restrictions. In most of the rest of the country, law makers either look the other way or actively support such measures (Chicago, NYC, DC etc).

Its just too hot for me though... No offense...
 
   / Best all around gun? #120  
that's what climate control is for.

I'll pay the extra 100$ for 6 months in order to have some civil rights and civil liberties and not live as a subject or in a communist regime state.

my freedom and safety is worth more than a higher electric and fuel bill.

soundguy
 

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