My case in point was not to find fault, but use an example of what happens when you have live ammo, your finger is on the trigger and your blood is pumping "expecting" perhaps to find something bad that can kill you.
Now imagine a "regular" homeowner who goes and investigates a noise with a gun. Thing about the military (since M4's are being used as example on what the military uses) is that you can sometimes shoot first and ask questions later.
I did not use my friends example as a fault finding exercise but as an example of mistakes can and do get made. His mistake, and many that happen in law enforcement, is not taking ones time. My friend did not need to go into that house. He did not need to go alone. In fact the house was just in his jurisdiction. It really was another agencies call but he was closer. The victim was outside and safe. He WANTED the bad guy so he went in.
From what I read about the Wilmington shooting, the officer saw something in the kids hand which was not a weapon. I remember the officer was expecting a violent criminal.
I know of incidents where officers have shot family members in their own houses. The officer heard a noise, got up to investigate and shot in the dark. Killed one of his children sneaking back into the house. The officer shooting his own child did not even know who he was shooting at. He was a dumb .... And he has to live with it the rest of his days.
Using a rifle in the house should be a last resort. Not something I would recommend. Using a rifle against two legged critters outside a house is going to be interesting justifying deadly force. Shooting someone at effective rifle distances and justifying deadly force is going to take some doing.
Glock stuff.....
Oh how I tried to avoid Glock's and accidental shootings in the hand gun thread.
And you HAD to bring this up!
I would really like to see accidental discharges rates of Glock vs others. My guess is that Glock will be a bit higher because of the trigger pull and my pet peave with having to pull the trigger to field strip the weapon. My father knows a guy who just shot himself in the hand cleaning a Glock. I don't know the guy but I think he is a retired LEO. Not real sure HOW he shot himself in the hand but he did. I wonder if my pet peave was a part of the chain of events.
Right before I left FLA a young officer was involved in the arrest of a man. The officer had his Glock out and was not watching the muzzle. Mistake 1 since the pistol was pointed at the arrestee's head. The arresstee reared back. Mistake 2 was the officer's finger on the trigger. Pistol went bang. Arrestee went dead. Would a DA/SA pistol have prevented the accident vs a Glock? Who knows but it was a point of discussion. The officer got out of law enforcement.
In MY case the lights would be on so I can see who is who in the house.
Everyone's situation will be different. Some people here on TBN have little to no training. Some people take various types of classes. Other have military and/or law enforcement backgrounds. One had better judge ones skills or lack there of and act accordingly. And act according to the law or Thou Goose Will Be Cooked. And Thee Be The Goose.
Later,
Dan
