Big Bud Tractors Resurrected

[Paystar]

The front of my Paystar shows where my love is, LOL

 

[Paystar]

Kubota utilizes Cummins in their M7 line, the M6 line still is Kubota engined.

Yep, the Versatile Nemesis is the Kubota M7. Kubota is not making the M7, it is made in the Versatile factory. Versatile painted it orange, and made some changes per Kubota's request to differentiate it.

No, the M8 is Cummins and is the Nemesis. The M7 is the largest of the Kubota engines and the tractor is all Kubota designed and manufactured.

 

[Sportsman762]

No, the M8 is Cummins and is the Nemesis. The M7 is the largest of the Kubota engines and the tractor is all Kubota designed and manufactured.

Yep your right. I have corrected my post!

 

[Paystar]

Yep your right. I have corrected my post!

Just wanted to save any confusion. It is hard to keep track these days with so many partnerships and building for others.

 

[Hay Dude]

I remember when Kubotas biggest tractors were 80-120HP and I think were built by SAME. Then the M-95 through M-125X came out. Those were Kubota. Then the M-126 & M-135 came out.

 

[Hay Dude]

The front of my Paystar shows where my love is, LOL

I hope I can succeed in getting this one going, but its a 9.3L IH engine.
Many years of abuse. I had to save it though.
I think it’ll be most of 2023 to get it finished.

Sorry, back to Big Bud tractors!!!

 

[mo1]

Yes, I was commenting on how Kubota is using the 6.7L Cummins in their new bigger M’s in another thread.
I guess the Kubota 6.1L 4cylinder reaches it’s max at about 200HP, while the Cummins would probably go up to 260+ in a farm tractor.

Tractor engines generally don't exceed 2/3 HP per cubic inch (40 HP/L) at the present time, and it is generally only the highest-tuned four-valve engines with something more complicated than a single fixed-vane mechanically-wastegated turbocharger and a single aftercooler. An engine with a simple two-valve head and single turbo with fixed vanes and a mechanical wastegate will usually be no more than about half a HP per cubic inch (low 30s HP/L.) The Kubota V6106 engine used in the M7-173 goes up to 173 HP, and it's a four-valve, single-turbo engine but that's about all I can tell about it from a search of their website.

The Kubota V6106 could theoretically go to about 250 HP if they wished to push their power density to the same levels that their competition does. Cummins offers the current Tier 4 four-valve variable-geometry turbo B6.7 at up to 326 HP ratings for agricultural applications. Deere and FPT offer similar-sized engines (FPT 6.7 and Deere 6068) up to about 300 HP using similar technology as Cummins does.

Regarding the IH, you posted in another thread that the engine is a 2006 HT570 so it's essentially a pre-emissions DT466E with a longer stroke. Thankfully you missed the whole MaxxForce emissions debacle on that one!

 

[5030]

Cummins has a bad habit of pulling head bolts. Of course the blocks are cast in India...

 

[5030]

The older Big Buds had double breasted Yamaha's in them. Not an efficient motor and you can still get a reman Cat with no electronic controls but you'll pay for it. I have an NZ 3406 in my Eagle and it's rated at 500 horses but I have it buttoned to 750. All aftermarket stuff now. 18 speed Road Ranger with 370 rears. It's a triple digit truck.

Been offered 20 grand for mine. Not for sale (just the engine).

 

[ArlyA]

What engine is in a Big Bud tractor?

Detroit Diesel 16V92T 16-

Towering over today's largest 4WD tractors, Big Bud is 27 feet long, 25 feet wide and 14 feet tall. It holds 1,000 gallons of fuel and weighs more than 135,000 pounds when fully ballasted. The engine is a Detroit Diesel 16V92T 16-cylinder, two-cycle engine.Aug 13, 2020

 

[5030]

It needs that much fuel. 2 stroke Detroit's are fuel pigs. :Looks like a leaker too. Typical 2 stroke Detroit. You do know that Roadway never changed the oil in their Detroit's, they just added.

 

[Oldtoad]

The big stuff is impressive, more manufacturing in this country is necessary. Hard to imagine an operation big enough to pay for those beauties.
Our old 3 and 4 cylinders are Japanese, going to keep the 12v Cummins as long as I can.
Heard about Cat going retro and building the good old stuff again but we have a tough row to hoe to clean up the mess that we got ourselves into.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

I have no problems with computers in tractors or trucks. That has been common since the 80's. I have no problems with common rail diesel its proven and it works. What I have a problem with is proprietary software, locked ports, etc. Requiring a dealer to be the one to troubleshoot your equipment. IMO the writing is on the wall. "They" are attempting to phase out fossil fuel. Emission standards are becoming almost impossible to meet requiring more and more trash embedded on your engine at a time when quality control and skill in the workforce is the worst in history. The days of the million mile consumer diesel ended around 2004 when the last 7.3 Powerstroke rolled off the line. 6.7 is a good engine but its not even comparable to the 7.3 in reliability and cost of ownership. There is a reason that pre 2004-5 diesels are in such high demand. Clean 7.3 OBS trucks are selling for 15k-30k+ along with LB7 Duramax under 150k miles expect to pay 20k+

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Cummins has a bad habit of pulling head bolts. Of course the blocks are cast in India...

Is that any worse than CATs blocks that are cast in china?

SR

 

[5030]

Cast in India last time I checked... Thank the EPA for that They basically put every grey iron foundry out of business with their emissions mandates.

 

[ArlyA]

Clean air does make me sick!

 

[5030]

Clean air does make me sick!

...and all the other major world players could care less. Wake up and smell the roses before their aren't any.

 

[Mart5130]

There are still B Bud tractors in use, being repaired and updated.. Here is one a neighbor to my sister uses in central SD. No video's on YTube to be found on it.View attachment 780583

Check Welker Farms on YT. They have Big Buds

 

[lman]

Clean air does make me sick!

How does shipping from India make cleaner air? Aren't hydrocarbons used for shipping?

 

[jyoutz]

...and all the other major world players could care less. Wake up and smell the roses before their aren't any.

Last I checked I haven’t seen or smelled any brown smog in US cities like I used to see in the 1970s. And that’s good for us even if China’s air requires people who live there to wear masks to breathe.