Branson 4720 TLB

[yooperdave]

I was looking at a Branson 4720 online.

Can someone tell me how good are the Branson loaders and backhoes?

Does the tractor have enough hydraulic capacity to run these attachments well? Are the number of remotes limited so you cannot have a 4in1 bucket?

Will the new larger 30 series tractors have a better hydraulic system to perform even better?

Thanks

Yooper Dave

 

[Chipperman]

yooperdave
Both the Zetor (by Century) and the Branson have more then enough hydraulic flow to run their loader or backhoe attachments. With the Zetor though you can get a third function option. By pressing a button on the joystick you can operate the 4in1 bucket without ever letting go of the joystick. It is really slick.
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[DavesTractor]

yooper and Chipperman,

We just installed a grapple on a Branson using the same type of third valve (electric over hydraulic) with a button set-up on the joystick. Works great. It doesn't take much flow at all to run a 4-n-1 or a grapple, so the pump isn't an issue on that. We have sold nearly 30 Branson TLB's in the last year and we have not had one complaint regarding the speed of the backhoe. Even so, if your primary use of the tractor is 8 hours a day of backhoe work I'd recommend a PTO pump. It will be a little faster and keeps the hot oil out of your tractor.

 

[SHIFTY]

Here is a photo from one of my proud customer.
A Century 3040 with a C50 HL Loader with the skid steer type quick attach system and a C86 Backhoe that was delivered a short time ago with the 3rd function hydraulics on the fender mounted pistol grip joystick and a 73" 4 in one Woods bucket.A sweet setup all around

http://www.tractorloft.com/Century.htm

 

[sassafraspete]

Dave, I'd be interested in hearing / seeing more on that joystick set-up for the grapple. Is this an add-on to the current branson joystick, or do you have to buy a whole new joystick. If you have a digital camera, take some pictures and describe the set-up. I have an interest in a grapple for moving brush, logs around my place. Is the grapple just an add on arm to a current branson bucket or another mfg's product?

Oh, by the way, my branson dealer has 2 4720's sitting on his lot.

pete

 

[sassafraspete]

Shifty, did the controller for the 4 in 1 come from the factory that way, or did you install yourself. What brand, details, ect. How about a close up picture of the control set-up.

Nice looking century.

pete

 

[sassafraspete]

To Yooper Dave, I have a Branson 7620 BH (7 1/2 ft), made by ameriquip, running on my Branson 4020. I spent some time running it this weekend, and I would have to say it moves very quickly....I have to be careful not to bang my stops....( still learning). I am starting to prepare a wooded site for builing a barn. Today I brought down some 45-50 ft red cedars using the hoe. See attached picture.

sassafraspete

 

[DavesTractor]

Pete,

I wish I had taken a picture of the hydraulic set-up we used. A very clean mount. We used the factory joystick, although we had to turn it down a little on the lathe for the knob/switch to fit properly.

Th grapple we used is a Gearmore product and it bolts or welds to the Branson bucket. It's a clean set-up.

 

[sassafraspete]

Dave, was the part you added to the joystick part of the gearmore package...or was it bought separately? If bought separately, where can I look at one / get a price?

pete

 

[DavesTractor]

Pete,

I buy them through Gearmore, yet I suspect WR Long and Woods probably use the same or very similar systems. I think any dealer that sells a FEL mounted hydraulic system will have access to these. I like Gearmore because they only make good stuff, but I sometimes wonder if a guy spent the time shopping hydraulic suppliers if he couldn't get it a little cheaper. List through Gearmore is $350 for the valve, knob/switch and bracket to mount it. The key is where to mount the unit to minimize wiring and plumbing and give it a factory look.

Next time we do one of these I'll snap a picture of the finished product.

 

[sassafraspete]

Thanks for the info Dave. I would like to see that installation. If anyone else out there has a picture of such a set up , please post it . I'd be interested in seeing it. From your description, sounds like you modify the joystick with a button switch, which controls a selenoid valve that diverts the hydraulic flow from say your curling function to a third function...in this case the grapple. The trick is running the wiring, mounting the valve in a way that looks like a factory installation. Is that the way it works?

yooper dave, didn't mean to hijack your post...but the hydraulics discussion on the branson was of interest to me...especially this 3rd function set-up.

pete

 

[DavesTractor]

Pete,

You've described it correctly. We will soon be delivering some additional implements to the customer that has the grapple. I'll try to remember to send my camera with whoever does the delivery.

Dave

 

[yooperdave]

I get all excited about hydraulics also - one of the greatest advancements in tractors ever.

Yooper Dave

 

[SHIFTY]

The control is from Zetor it , It was a piece meal kit on this unit. I believe it is now a option on the Z BY C ( Zetor by Century) I am not sure If I have any photo's of the joystick itself . Here is a photo of the front of the loader

 

[yooperdave]

Dave,

Do you have any more pictures that you can share with us?

Thanks

Yooper Dave

 

[sassafraspete]

Dave, ditto on the pictures....eg grapple, 3rd function electric controller... still interested in seeing !!

sassafraspete

 

[DavesTractor]

Sorry guys, I haven't been down to snap a picture of the grapple we sold a few weeks ago. I'll try to sell another one and take a picture of that! We may be mounting a 4-N-1 bucket soon (sale is pending), so that would be a neat picture to post.

 

[yooperdave]

Hi Dave,

Does the 4 in 1 & grapple buckets have the toolless quick attach feature also?

What would a 4 in 1 and a grapple bucket add in cost to the basic loader?

Will a 4720 TLB fit on a 5.5' x 16' tandem axle trailer?

Thanks

Yooper Dave

 

[RamTruckMan]

What is the difference between the C50 and C50HL?

 

[Chipperman]

RamTruckMan
The C-50HL will lift 1600# 20" ahead of the pivot and the C-50 will lift 1320#. 2540# at the pivot (C50HL) and 2100# at the pivot (C-50). The HL will also lift 6" higher and it is only available for the larger frame tractors. Hope that helps.
Happy Tractoring
Chipperman