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Ryno1
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sooooo getut does that mean you don't believe in tipping a waitress? I don't see any difference in tipping a waitress and giving a small gift (cash or whatever) to service tech.
Are local waitresses like seeing us come in, does yours?
Are local waitresses like seeing us come in, does yours?
Jim57
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I am here to tell you that it Does NOT work on all dealers. (Even though I feel you should get Good Service from the Dealer you purchased it from anyway because they made money on the purchase) I tried with the dealer that has done me wrong with my Shibaura SD2200 4X4 and it did Not make a difference. I completely rewired the lights, furnishing the new wiring, plugs and all, on their trailer and paid for it out of my pocket and set it up to be pulled by a seven pin, four pin and six pin for the different plugs out there. They completely ignored what I did for them and still treated me badly. I ended up in litigation that is still ongoing. Now with attorney fees I have spent out of my pocket. Some people just can not be bribed or a favor done for because they do not intend to help you anyway. Just another loss I have incurred from this dealer.
Jim
Jim
Farmwithjunk
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I'm not down with the term bribery, but I AM in favor of letting my dealer, mechanics, and parts man know I appreciate their good work.
They get some of the "fruits of my labor" during garden season. They get a few other favors as the opportunity presents itself.
The mechanic at my favorite John Deere dealership has saved me a fortune over the years. How? By fixing EVERYTHING that he sees when my tractors or other equipment passes through their shop. NO UNTIMELY BREAKDOWNS!
I don't like the word bribe. It denotes paying someone EXTRA for doing what they are supposed to do anyway.
I like the term REWARD!
And there's not a thing wrong with just being a nice guy! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
They get some of the "fruits of my labor" during garden season. They get a few other favors as the opportunity presents itself.
The mechanic at my favorite John Deere dealership has saved me a fortune over the years. How? By fixing EVERYTHING that he sees when my tractors or other equipment passes through their shop. NO UNTIMELY BREAKDOWNS!
I don't like the word bribe. It denotes paying someone EXTRA for doing what they are supposed to do anyway.
I like the term REWARD!
And there's not a thing wrong with just being a nice guy! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Ahh Ryno.. you know the comparison isn't even close to the same. Waitressing is a common tip type of job. Minimum wage allowances even take tip paying jobs into account. A mechanic is not customarily a job payed with tips. They get completely fair compensation for their job.
But to answer your question. I do tip waitresses. I cannot honestly say that I always tip 15%, but it is usually very close... and if one of my kids has made an extreme mess I have gone over the top and tipped well over 15%. But then I am also the type of guy that refuses a free meal if the restaurant offers because they got something wrong. I think the sentiment is nice, but I ate the meal and I should pay for it.
But to answer your question. I do tip waitresses. I cannot honestly say that I always tip 15%, but it is usually very close... and if one of my kids has made an extreme mess I have gone over the top and tipped well over 15%. But then I am also the type of guy that refuses a free meal if the restaurant offers because they got something wrong. I think the sentiment is nice, but I ate the meal and I should pay for it.
Jim57
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I like the term REWARD!
And there's not a thing wrong with just being a nice guy! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif )</font>
I agree!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I like the term REWARD!
And there's not a thing wrong with just being a nice guy! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif )</font>
I agree!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
frank_f15
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i agree, when i was still working and running a crew, on especially hot and tough jobs, i would pull the crew and give them a cold drink told them to take a break, IT was not bribary, it was letting them know i appreciated their effort.
I also do not like the term bribe, used in this context. I have worked in the service industry as a technician, and I can tell you in alot of cases they are NOT payed properly. The dealer makes the money, not the guy working on your vehicle/equipment/etc. It typically works out to less than 1/3 the hourly rate for a job that someone else may have priced out. If it takes you 1hr to do a 5hr job, great, you made good time. Quite often you could make 1hr for a job that took you 5hrs, not so great. Dont get me wrong, in some instances it can be a good deal. But if I have a customer that appreciates me and what I do for them, they get a little better treatment than the guy who comes in and says "its your job, I expect it done yesterday at 5 and I'm not paying anything".
I have found over the years that some people are kinder at heart than others and take these things for granted. I on the other hand, am more cautious and if I would like my hard earned investment treated properly, I tend to treat the individual working on it better than the average joe. If this means just being nice or giving them a tip of some sorts, so be it. It wont cost me much to show them appreciation, too often people in the service industry dont get it.
I have found over the years that some people are kinder at heart than others and take these things for granted. I on the other hand, am more cautious and if I would like my hard earned investment treated properly, I tend to treat the individual working on it better than the average joe. If this means just being nice or giving them a tip of some sorts, so be it. It wont cost me much to show them appreciation, too often people in the service industry dont get it.
HomeBrew2
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Controversy? On this subject? I couldn't imagine it. Was that your intent? Differences of opinion? Assuredly.
I'm with getut. He speaks well for himself and did a good job of commenting and answering.
My addition is: knock yourself out with whatever works well for you and makes your situation best. Feel free to let it go at that. Personally, I have no interest whatsoever in being friends or chummy with the mechanic or, especially, the salesclown, unless they want to make me feel friendly. For crying out loud, I'M the one with the giant wad of cash, that I went out of my way to walk through their door to unload. Furthermore, I don't want just any wrencher messing with my equipment. I've already made repairs that were covered under warrenty just so I didn't have to haul my rig to town and wait and wait and deal with a serviceclown. If and when the time comes that I have to break down and have somebody do what I find I am not capable of, I'll seek out the best person for the job and pay them what they are worth.
In case there's a survey going, I don't need someone else to cook my food (I live alone) so, going to restaurants is something that is a treat, you might say, and I do tip, in proportion to the service rendered. Maybe 1%, maybe 30%. It is not my prob if service personell in a tipping job can't get a job that pays them straightup for their services. And, I certainly don't pay someone to simply recognize me and be receptive and cheerful when I walk into a business. Though, I will admit that may be a pleasurable plan when visiting certain places with a lot of girls in it /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Cheers!
I'm with getut. He speaks well for himself and did a good job of commenting and answering.
My addition is: knock yourself out with whatever works well for you and makes your situation best. Feel free to let it go at that. Personally, I have no interest whatsoever in being friends or chummy with the mechanic or, especially, the salesclown, unless they want to make me feel friendly. For crying out loud, I'M the one with the giant wad of cash, that I went out of my way to walk through their door to unload. Furthermore, I don't want just any wrencher messing with my equipment. I've already made repairs that were covered under warrenty just so I didn't have to haul my rig to town and wait and wait and deal with a serviceclown. If and when the time comes that I have to break down and have somebody do what I find I am not capable of, I'll seek out the best person for the job and pay them what they are worth.
In case there's a survey going, I don't need someone else to cook my food (I live alone) so, going to restaurants is something that is a treat, you might say, and I do tip, in proportion to the service rendered. Maybe 1%, maybe 30%. It is not my prob if service personell in a tipping job can't get a job that pays them straightup for their services. And, I certainly don't pay someone to simply recognize me and be receptive and cheerful when I walk into a business. Though, I will admit that may be a pleasurable plan when visiting certain places with a lot of girls in it /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Cheers!
Jim57
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( i agree, when i was still working and running a crew, on especially hot and tough jobs, i would pull the crew and give them a cold drink told them to take a break, IT was not bribary, it was letting them know i appreciated their effort. )</font>
I did the same when I was Vice President of Contracting Decors, Inc and Spencer Wilson Investments. The owner did not agree with what I did but believe me... the guys worked harder and appreciated me treating them like I would like to be treated. These guys would do their best for me on the job. When it came to the owner... they would goof off and not do near as quality work as they were capable of. Appreciation goes a long way. We all like to be appreciated and not taken for granted!!!
Jim
I did the same when I was Vice President of Contracting Decors, Inc and Spencer Wilson Investments. The owner did not agree with what I did but believe me... the guys worked harder and appreciated me treating them like I would like to be treated. These guys would do their best for me on the job. When it came to the owner... they would goof off and not do near as quality work as they were capable of. Appreciation goes a long way. We all like to be appreciated and not taken for granted!!!
Jim
