Briefly running engine in garage

   / Briefly running engine in garage #81  
Analog is long gone.

Welcome to the digital age.

We are Borg?

There is wisdom in the pallets.

Oh my!, Those darn Pallets again. Can't get away from them.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #82  
BTW, it's NOT CO2, which is carbon dioxide, but CO which is the deadly gas, carbon monoxide, to which you refer.

Right, it's CO that's the problem in auto shop asphyxiation. My uncle nearly died from CO poisoning while working in the shop on a tractor during the winter in central Wisconsin. He thought that cracking the bay door was enough--wrong.

However, CO2 (carbon dioxide) is similarly deadly. That's the problem the Apollo 13 astronauts faced after the CO2 scrubber system in the Command Module failed due to the inflight explosion. Also will be a problem for astronauts when they get to the surface of Mars--very low pressure, nearly pure CO2 atmosphere.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #83  
Right, it's CO that's the problem in auto shop asphyxiation. My uncle nearly died from CO poisoning while working in the shop on a tractor during the winter in central Wisconsin. He thought that cracking the bay door was enough--wrong.

However, CO2 (carbon dioxide) is similarly deadly. That's the problem the Apollo 13 astronauts faced after the CO2 scrubber system in the Command Module failed due to the inflight explosion. Also will be a problem for astronauts when they get to the surface of Mars--very low pressure, nearly pure CO2 atmosphere.

The above nearly fatal incident is largely why I find humor about CO poisoning to be out of place. There is too much misunderstanding of the subject and obscuring the facts or making light of the consequences regarding CO can lead some to believe it is something that can be viewed lightly, which can and does cause fatalities due to complacency instead of fear of the possible outcomes.
There is a time and place to joke and this isn't one of those places. Maybe go visit a joke thread to satiate the need.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #84  
Is it not possible to take something seriously and also joke a little? Must it be binary?

The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin
or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter yet these are not
strangers to our land.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #85  
There is a time and place to joke and this isn't one of those places. Maybe go visit a joke thread to satiate the need.

I was going to post an emoticon as a reply for this type of attitude but dang, I don't see that one here...
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #86  
I was going to post an emoticon as a reply for this type of attitude but dang, I don't see that one here...

A merry-go-round in a child's playground?
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #87  
A merry-go-round in a child's playground?

A merry-go-round would represent far, far too much joy for such a serious, serious topic. Although, a merry-go-round does go in a circle, passing by the same point over and over again, with some riders thinking if they just spin faster they'll get some where.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #89  
   / Briefly running engine in garage #90  

This illustrates the seriousness of CO poisoning. While I prosed about levity in earlier posts, this hits home about CO and paying attention to your appliances and their operation. Yes, some kudo's are due to Coyote on the subject as no laughing matter. While I have been fully aware of the potential of danger of CO, I still say that to get more people engaged to realize the danger... levity is still okay and beneficial to the cause.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #91  
If I hear one more joke about Chris Christy being fat, I'm going to blow my top!!!!!!! That is some deadly stuff, right there.... grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I go along with the notion that there's two ways to view life, as a comedy or a tragedy. If some of you prefer the latter, have fun with that and I'm sorry about your not getting invited to many parties. As for me, I'll continue to view life on the positive side. And please, save the admonishment, it doesn't make you look as wise as you think it does. In fact, the opposite.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #92  
If I hear one more joke about Chris Christy being fat, I'm going to blow my top!!!!!!! That is some deadly stuff, right there.... grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm betting some of you are members of the safety police here as well, am I right? Last night I gave all the grandkids a ride in my FEL, full up in the air while speeding around my hilly property. Man, they thought that was fun. I thought it was pretty funny. :confused2::eek::drink:

How long before the admins delete this post? one.....two.....three......

Were you going Backwards?
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #93  
Oh Murphy! You beat me to it! I modified the post to tone it down some but hey.... there it is! I like it! I wasn't going backwards but I did make the FEL go up and down all along so it felt like a carnival ride.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #94  
Oh Murphy! You beat me to it! I modified the post to tone it down some but hey.... there it is! I like it! I wasn't going backwards but I did make the FEL go up and down all along so it felt like a carnival ride.

It must have been a carnival ride, with the clown at the wheel. And if one of your grandkids had been hurt for whatever reason how funny would that have been? You can whine safety police all you want, but when something tragic happens then everyone goes, " how could this have happened?" Lame, irresponsible behavior.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #95  
It must have been a carnival ride, with the clown at the wheel. And if one of your grandkids had been hurt for whatever reason how funny would that have been? You can whine safety police all you want, but when something tragic happens then everyone goes, " how could this have happened?" Lame, irresponsible behavior.

Heh heh...... :D
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #96  
Oh Murphy! You beat me to it! I modified the post to tone it down some but hey.... there it is! I like it! I wasn't going backwards but I did make the FEL go up and down all along so it felt like a carnival ride.

Genius!

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   / Briefly running engine in garage #97  
i'm not disputing the dangers of co, nor am i trying to downplay the seriousness of it, and i am certainly not trying to make fun of, or offend anyone, but this whole thread and some of the replies have taken me by surprise to say the least. i was floored by people talking about pushing tractors in and out of garages. i'm still processing it, and i have yet to wrap my head around it. i've never heard of this until now. every commercial garage has the mechanics drive the vehicles in and out many times per day. many of these mechanics in both small and large shops have been doing it for decades. if there were more than a couple cases per million where harm came from it, you can guarantee the personal injury lawyers would be running prime time tv commercials advising of a class action lawsuit against employers who had mechanics drive customer vehicles into a building. there has got to be a pretty good dispersal rate even in most garages or you would hear about it all the time.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #98  
i'm not disputing the dangers of co, nor am i trying to downplay the seriousness of it, and i am certainly not trying to make fun of, or offend anyone, but this whole thread and some of the replies have taken me by surprise to say the least. i was floored by people talking about pushing tractors in and out of garages. i'm still processing it, and i have yet to wrap my head around it. i've never heard of this until now. every commercial garage has the mechanics drive the vehicles in and out many times per day. many of these mechanics in both small and large shops have been doing it for decades. if there were more than a couple cases per million where harm came from it, you can guarantee the personal injury lawyers would be running prime time tv commercials advising of a class action lawsuit against employers who had mechanics drive customer vehicles into a building. there has got to be a pretty good dispersal rate even in most garages or you would hear about it all the time.

Just cause it's been past practice for the last 80 yrs doesn't make it right!

Mold/asbestos abatement come to mind? How many people in the past dealt with these substances and are now sick or dying from them?

There are enough ways to get sick, injured or even die without needlessly putting yourself at risk!

I always even as a young teenager pushed the atv out of the shed garage before starting it.

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   / Briefly running engine in garage #99  
i'm not disputing the dangers of co, nor am i trying to downplay the seriousness of it, and i am certainly not trying to make fun of, or offend anyone, but this whole thread and some of the replies have taken me by surprise to say the least. i was floored by people talking about pushing tractors in and out of garages. i'm still processing it, and i have yet to wrap my head around it. i've never heard of this until now. every commercial garage has the mechanics drive the vehicles in and out many times per day. many of these mechanics in both small and large shops have been doing it for decades. if there were more than a couple cases per million where harm came from it, you can guarantee the personal injury lawyers would be running prime time tv commercials advising of a class action lawsuit against employers who had mechanics drive customer vehicles into a building. there has got to be a pretty good dispersal rate even in most garages or you would hear about it all the time.

Yeah, AND most every commercial garage has a dedicated ventilation system that sucks the fumes from the tailpipe and passes the fumes to outside ambient air.
 
   / Briefly running engine in garage #100  
Yeah, AND most every commercial garage has a dedicated ventilation system that sucks the fumes from the tailpipe and passes the fumes to outside ambient air.
For when the vehicle is driven into the bay? Some shops have a system for when they run the car in the bay, but MOST smaller shops dont (or if they do, its just a flex pipe that runs to a hole in the wall/door).
I have NEVER seen a shop that has a system to suck out the exhaust of a car that is being pulled into or out of a shop.

Aaron Z
 

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