Bringing the draft back ???

MikePA · Apr 20, 2004

everybody should have to serve active duty then maybe in the future when the military is called upon to defend our freedom again there will be people out there who understand what it is all about 
In other words, if the person has not served, they are not qualified to send people into battle and just because they have served, they are? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Define 'active duty'. Does it mean they have to have been on the front lines or would active duty in a staff position count? What about active duty in a support area, does that count? Since when is being more or less reluctant to send people into battle good or bad? What if Lincoln had been less reluctant to send men into battle and the Civil War had not been fought or if FDR had been less reluctant and WWII had not been fought?

I'd rather have someone who is wise enough to see the need, decisive enough to act, dedicated to see it through and smart enough to leave the fighting to the professionals.

muddy · Apr 20, 2004

Mike please practise what you preach: /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 ( Please TBNers, let's not turn this thread into a discussion about the current conflicts the US is ionvolved in, OK? ) 

 ( Don, my comments were not directed at you, but everyone in the thread. Frankly, I don't know why threads like this are started since it's obvious where they will head. Particularly, since there are plenty of other web sites specfically created for the discussion of politics. ) 

 ( I agree with this (AndyM posted a similar sentiment). However, it would be very easy for such threads to dominate TBN and before we know it TBN would morph into PBN! ) 

 ( Roll up the pants, it's too late to save the shoes. ) 

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MikePA · Apr 20, 2004

I am. This thread has not gotten ugly so it has not been closed.

muddy · Apr 20, 2004

( since there are plenty of other web sites specfically created for the discussion of politics. ) ????

MikePA · Apr 20, 2004

Based upon the comments of others, I changed my mind. Understand?

fivestring · Apr 20, 2004

"What if Lincoln had been less reluctant to send men into battle and the Civil War had not been fought or if FDR had been less reluctant and WWII had not been fought?"


I like that, Mike.

And we've had leaders that decided not to (Clinton and the 17 UN resolutions with no backbone) and look where we are today.

What a lot of people forget is the theme behind this one with Iraq.
PRE-EMPTIVE is the key word. That means we will strike first.
That makes this one and ALL future ones different from everything we've done in the past.
That in and of itself is a big deterrent to terrorism.

People are so fixed on the media's version (left) of how bad things are going that they are blinded by the smokescreen.
For every soldier that's killed, there are how many ten of thousands that are not.
For every soldier that's wounded, there are how many ten of thousands that are not.
For every vehicle blown up, there are ten of thousands that are not.
For every building that's bombed, there are how many ten of thousands that are not.
If one believes everything they see and hear on TV, they are far from being well informed.

Boondox · Apr 20, 2004

Whoa, Muddy! Mike's concern was that in the past topics like this led to flame wars that were very uncharacteristic of TBN. He had some valid concerns, but like any intelligent person he voiced those concerns then sat back and watched before taking action.

I think it speaks volumes about the civility of TBN that we all -- knowing how heated things can get -- have taken such pains to avoid offending our tractoring friends and to avoid the confrontations Mike was so worried about.

Let's all try hard to keep it that way. Remember, we're all in this sandbox together! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Pete

muddy · Apr 20, 2004

No, I don't understand ?????????????????????????

fivestring · Apr 20, 2004

"Remember, we're all in this sandbox together!"

Pete, one of the instrumental songs we do is called
"The Arab Bounce".
We announce it as a tribute to the troops in the big sandbox! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif