Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?

   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?
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#91  
It looks like you have Country Clipper dealers down there. We've had one for several years and have had no problems. I like the one hand joystick steering along with the flip up deck for under deck access.
There are a few dealers around, but the closest one is still and hour and a half away. I'd either have to fall in love with the machine (this has never worked out to my advantage) or get one hell of a good deal (which has some times worked out).
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?
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#92  
not bad, you'll have to scroll through the intro though

The Ferris is intriguing with that front suspension, but if the mower deck doesn't float I could see it scalping the lawn. This is my ignorance talking in that I don't know if these decks float or not.

I like that the Gravely has Parker hydraulics as I've experience with Parker and know hydraulic shops where I can get them serviced.
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?
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#93  
What to watch for:

If buying gasser engines, I'd only go Kawasaki on a commercial ZTR. If it has a Briggs, or any one of the several other brand names Briggs uses (e.g. Intek), I'm not even looking at it. I'm having trouble remembering ever seeing any commercial zero turn wearing anything other than a Kawasaki V-twin, they're damn near obligatory / standard.

Heavy cast front casters are a must for me, those things take a serious beating. I look at the folded flat steel casters featured on many ZTR's, and wonder how they're not constantly flexing and bending.

Look at what your local pro's are running, as that's probably a better indicator than any as to how they do under your local conditions and how well they're supported with locally stocked parts, mechanics, etc. Around here, the pros only run two brands today: Deere and Exmark.

(The local pro's used to run a lot of Scag, as well. But it's probably been 15+ years since I've seen any new Scag mower on a landscaper's trailer. Maybe their local dealer went away?)

What to avoid:

Your biggest problem with any ZTR is grass clogging the hydro pump cooling and the engine cooling. But how good or bad a mower design is in these regards is going to be real tough to assess on a dealer's lot.

Once you pick a brand, model, and deck configuration, start reading the lawnsite forum. Lot's of pro landscapers on that forum, and you can search to see if the configuration you've picked is receiving a lot of posts about trouble. On some models, even pro models, you'll find one specific deck configuration (e.g. 72" mulching) has lots of trouble, while other deck configurations are trouble-free.

Other:

The suspension mowers may be worth checking out, especially if your wife might be using it. I run a Deere 757, and they're known for a particularly stiff frame, it really jostles you around pretty hard. The Exmarks are known for a slightly softer ride, even without suspension, but those newer suspension chassis mowers from Ferris and others must be an even nicer ride. I'd not want to ride my Deere ZTR if I had breasts, I think they'd be bouncing off my knees, the ride on that mower is so damn rough at full speed.

The comments about diesels amuse me. We've run the numbers on this more than once, in fact there was a thread debating this just two weeks ago. There is no way any homeowner mowing their own 5 acres can ever justify the high upfront cost of a diesel. Even the commercial guys have to work hard just to break even on the cost of a diesel vs. gasser, based on fuel cost alone. The advantages of diesel are likely more on the convenience of carrying just one fuel for mowers and tractors, and in engine lifespan for those racking up a thousand hours per year. But for any homeowner doing 100 hours per year, your deck is going to rot out long before you exceed the 2000+ hour lifespan of a Kawi V-twin.
Lots of good advice here. I like the idea of checking of the forums of any model we've come to consider.

I was all about diesel when I was looking at buying our Kawasaki Mule. The dealer was even discounting them at less that the gasoline version. Then I test drove the Mule around their test course, and it was so incredibly loud that I immediately decided against it. I wonder if diesel ZTR's are similar in being noisy buggers?

I keep an 11 gallon gas tank on a pedestal with a hose. This way the wife and kids don't have to lift anything to refuel the gasoline powered vehicles.

I still have 5 gallon cans of diesel I have to lift for the tractor, this shows my position in the pecking order.
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?
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#95  
Mowing is actually the easy / fun part of the property care package.
I might have agreed with that if I still lived in Michigan, but Texas in the summer with high humidity sucks all the fun out of the process.

Add to that the long sleeves, slacks and hat the dermatologist says I need to be wearing...
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid?
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#97  
The local dealers carry Cub Cadet, John Deere, Stihl and Gravely. The big box stores are Lowes and Tractor Supply.
Seems a bit weird to quote myself...

In performing the dealer search on the various models I was unaware of, I discovered that my local Massey dealer also handles Ferris.

So far I kind of like what I've seen of them.

Now, off to the forums...
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid? #98  
Anything can have infant mortality, but the fact that it requires a service center to reset the belt is a red flag for me.
good point. never had to have my Encore 36" walk behind replaired.
if necessary, have 2 places in my vicinity that repair. the ZTR walk behind is oft overlooked when it comes to mowers, & makes a great companion to the rider ZTR.

what i like about it is that if you're in trouble, just walk away & it shuts down.
not quite so with a rider or tractor....
 
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   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid? #99  
good point. never had to have my Encore 36" walk behind replaired.
if necessary, have 2 places in my vicinity that repair. the ZTR walk behind is oft overlooked when it comes to mowers, & makes a great companion to the rider ZTR.

what i like about it is that if you're in trouble, just walk away & it shuts down.
not quite so with a rider or tractor....
Very true. I'd recommend a stand on rider that same reason. If you ever got in a hairy situation that was going south, just hop off.
 
   / Buying a ZTR, what should I look for, or avoid? #100  
Seems a bit weird to quote myself...

In performing the dealer search on the various models I was unaware of, I discovered that my local Massey dealer also handles Ferris.

So far I kind of like what I've seen of them.

Now, off to the forums...
The Stihl is a Ferris
 

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