BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)

   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)
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#11  
Yes, it is the boathouse the BX-24 lives in. I've been starting it and immediately driving it 2/3's out the door. Luckily this year the swallows camped out right near the opening on the opposite end (water side). The more I thought about the exhaust hose the less I liked it. 1. Burning myself. 2. Forgetting to take it off. 3. take just as long to take it off and get in seat as it would to just drive out. 4. Also I learned it never seems to need any warm up at all, even when fairly cold out.

I don't think R4's would make any difference. It would just dig a hole quicker. Personally I think turfs are better on soft sand. They tend to ride on top. Like a dune buggy. Tandom Turfs on front and rear might work.

Of course it was in 4WD and all 4 were turning and digging. Didn't bother with diff lock since they were all turning anyway (even load).

23HP is plenty compared to jeep. Traction is the issue not power.

I don't think the weight on back tires was that bad. Went I lifted FEL up and down (i.e. I jerked it) and the weight bounced a little there was no tendancy for the rear wheels to lift at all. What I could have done is extend the backhoe for little extra weight on the rear though. The trailer is custom built for the boat and has an awefull lot of tongue weight. But there is no adjustment to make. It always trailered fine though with the jeep and jeep stayed nice and level. Love my jeep, just that gas thing gets in the way.

I don't think taking backhoe off is a good idea at all, need all the weight I can get. Also I'd have to back tractor in way further than I'd like. The water is prettry shallow. Even when using the jeep the exhaust is under water and half way up rear wheels.

I think if I extended backhoe and connected boat to it, the front wheels would be off the ground.

If there were cement pads (a normal boat lauch does) I think it would work fine. I may try putting down some sort of steel grates I can remove. A normal boat launch is steeper too, to allow boat to float more.

Floating the boat as suggested might work. I was testing while lauching if I could pull it back out. If the boat was half winched on the trailer (floating) then I pulled trailer out on to more solid ground then winched the boat the rest of the way it might work. The Jeep takes advantage of that Idea a little by backing way in. And I get a running start and I'm moving when the jeep sees the full load. So the Jeep has speed (and height) advantage too, which the BX-24 does not. That is, no "running start" with BX-24. I'd be a little nervous trying this, I don't want a tractor stuck in the lake, that would be really bad.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #12  
Yep it's the tires, I doubt if you had bar or R4's it would have been a problem. I've pulled out boats that size with a quad, even a trike on sand with no problems but the problem might also be the boat trailer tires. If the sand is that soft they may have sank down to the axle in the water.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)
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#13  
Taiser said:
Yep it's the tires, I doubt if you had bar or R4's it would have been a problem. I've pulled out boats that size with a quad, even a trike on sand with no problems but the problem might also be the boat trailer tires. If the sand is that soft they may have sank down to the axle in the water.

Sand is not that soft, tires on trailer are not sinking. It only sinks if the tires spin.

I'd love to see a trike pull this out. It's 4,500 lbs (with an empty tank).
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #14  
Looks like your going to need a bigger tractor.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #15  
My thought is tractor is just too light, far out weighed by boat. Would be interesting to see how it would work if there was another 1000 lbs or so of tractor weight. Also, be very careful you don't bend your cutting edge, big pain in the neck once bent, angle iron is good suggestion. I added bolt on cutting edge to my loader. That's a small cutting edge to put that kind of weight on centered with the clamp on receiver.

Certainly would be different story on paved pad.

HP is no issue, in low range you should be able to spin those tires even if on pavement.

Agreed on tires, more flotation the better.

Takes traction and weight to pull those trailer tires through soft soil.

Good luck,
Joel
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #17  
mswlogo said:
Personally I think turfs are better on soft sand. They tend to ride on top. Like a dune buggy.

Um... On the front wheels dune buggies use plain tires. On the driven wheels they use tires that make R1's look mild.

dunetires.jpg


You're right when you say traction is the issue.

PS: I caught plenty of flak when I said the swallows really weren't a problem. Glad to hear they're doing fine.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #18  
buy a 4wd truck.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #19  
How bout making a little dolly to attach under the boat trailer hitch, something with some small sand friendly tires, then hook up a chain and pull in a forward direction from further away where the traction is better?
 

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