BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)

   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #21  
The pierced steel landing mats are also called PSP, or pierced steel planking.... that might help if you are doing a search.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #22  
I used to have a 26 ft ocean going sail boat that I towed with my 65 mustang. To get it out of the water in a similar situation I would lower the landing wheel at the front of the trailer and get a long length of anchor line. I would then get the car about 50 ft off the beach up onto the parking lot and just slowly pull until the trailer cleared the sand. Then untie the rope and hook up the hitch. I also had a come along just in case. I would bury the spare tire of the mustang as a deadman and hook one end of the come along to the tire and the other end to the boat trailer or the trailer hitch on the Mustang, whichever happened to be stuck at the time. If you read my first post a couple of weeks ago, you will realize I get stuck a lot. Maybe some time I will tell you about getting the Ice Breaker stuck in the ice while a Polar Bear was trying to open the hatch to the Galley!
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #23  
"I think that success lies with attaching the boat trailer to the backhoe and driving the tractor forward. You'll easily land your boat/trailer tandem on shore. You might be able to use a cable and just suspend the trailer coupler below the teeth of the backhoe bucket. Or, there might be an attachment for this purpose where you would remove the backhoe bucket and use an attachment in its place."

What ever you do, don't do as sugested in the above quote. Best way in the world to bend a cylinder shaft on your backhoe. There is no hydralic relief valve on the cylinders, and it is very easy to over load them using this technique.

ron
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #24  
Throw a set of snow chains on and give it another try.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #25  
I think the mats are a good idea. Anything you could lay down for tration.To throw out another idea if all others are not workable, What about extending the hoe all the way out and hooking a chain to a tree and useing the hoe to pull the Bx and the boat out. I have worked in snow storms with all kinds of equipment getting stuck including roadgraders and we are able to pull almost anything out with the backhoe even if it is only a quarter the weight. Hydralics are strong.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)
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#26  
I think the landing mats are probably the best bet. Just a couple feet before I went fully in, it pulled back out fine. It's really close. I don't want it to be too major a project getting it out. I'll probably try floating the boat behind trailer in the fall and see how that goes first. I'm not in a rush to replace jeep just yet. Just next car I'd like to down size a bit.

I hear ya on the bent bucket edge. It returned to straight fine and if I continue to use it I'll beef it up. I just got the tooth bar and hitch adapter does fit over toothbar and clamps against the toothbar itself. But I had not mounted the toothbar yet.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #27  
I might bring my 3030 over to launch your boat for you in exchange for an afternoon of skiing / wakeboarding ! :D
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #28  
mswlogo said:
I'll probably try floating the boat behind trailer in the fall and see how that goes first.

I'm not sure how thats going to go for you.... I have found myself in a few situations where I had to winch my boat up onto my trailer in shallow water. When the bow rides up onto the roller at the back of the trailer and proceeds forward, It puts a HUGE upward strain on the tow hitch. It also tended to lift the rear of my 4x4 light on its rear axle..... until such time as the centre of gravity of the boat came over the trailer axles...
Im thinking your 4500lb cruiser is going to lift your bx clear up off the ground and pull it into the water like a sea monster grabbing its prey and dragging it into the sea.... (ok I'm exadurating here but you get the picture lol) Please be extremely careful if you're going to do this... i would strongly advise against that method.
I would use the landing mats but they are not cheap in my neck of the woods. Heres how I'd do it, I'd set about making a temporary landing ramp out of wood. Heres the cheapest way I could find to do it myself.....
Get yourself some 2"X4" and lots of it. Cut it into 2ft sections, youre going to need lots of these, maybe 40-60 of them. Get yourself to a scrapyard and cut the safety belts out of a few cars. Lay your 2ft lengths of 2X4 on the ground like railroad ties about 3 inches apart. Lay your safety belts down over the 2X4's perpendicular to the run of the wood. Using galvanised clout nails, Nail the safety belt to the 2X4's... (see where I'm going yet?). Flip them over, and hey presto, you got yourslf a landing bridge. You lay these into the water and back your trailer onto them. I would recommend having 4. That way you have pairs that you can lay down and track across the whole beach if necessary. You will have little to NO resistance pulling the 4500lb boat out of the water.

Problem with pulling a boat out on a sand beach is when you back your trailer into the sea, the saturated sand kind of sucks the wheels down. When you load your boat onto the trailer I'll bet if you look at yout tires, they are buried +3 inches into the sand under the water. You are trying to pull against this with your BX, essentially the trailer wheels are acting like anchors.

Oh, and with your landing ramp, of course you can roll it up and store it until needed. I used to have it in the bed of my truck until needed. Worked every time. You could even make this ramp out of 1ft lengths of 2X4 if you wanted... depending on how soft the sand is. In the photo, the sand looks pretty firm.

I'm also thinking that BX might be just a touch on the light side for the job you have in mind... Dont go trading in your truck just yet...

Nice boat and property...
 
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   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out)
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#29  
You have a good point if I let the boat hang out there it would have negative tongue weight. That could get pretty ugly. And any negative tonque weight would quickly loose front traction.

I'm sure the tires are sinking on the trailer a bit.

I guess a portable ramp is the best shot.
 
   / BX-24 too small for pulling boat (went in but wouldn't come out) #30  
I see somebody's bucket is screaming for mercy...I can see the 2 or 3 inch bow developing all the way from Virginia.

This, by the way, is a very extreme request for a BX. I'd think it to be extreme for most vehicles given the ease by which you can dig yourself in the sand. After many years driving on the Outer Banks of NC, I can tell you that sand doesn't mix well with towing...and pulling up an incline like this with the sand sucking at the wheels of the trailer is worse.

I think you'll be good if you get the trailer wheels on something solid, like mentioned in other posts. Even still, I'd fear for my little tractor in this situation. A little over-matched, I would say.
 

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