BX seat safety switch?

Henro · Jul 10, 2003

Re: My dealer must have thought I looked unsafe!!!!!

surfran and everyone,

Thanks for all the input.

Very interesting that Surfran's manual actually describes the seat interlock.I wonder what I will take delivery of...and when!

In any case, if I find the seat switch being there...it will not function very long. Hope it is not there to begin with though...

equipman · Jul 10, 2003

Re: My dealer must have thought I looked unsafe!!!!!

surfran
That red button is really a breather for the rear end. It sure looks like a button though, when they were new I tried to push one also to see what would happen. The seat saftey switch will kill the engine if you are in "gear" or have the PTO engaged and get off the seat.
Lewis

k8ny · Jul 10, 2003

No seat interlock on my BX2200 bought Sept 2001

Henro · Jul 10, 2003

Re: My dealer must have thought I looked unsafe!!!!!

 The seat saftey switch will kill the engine if you are in "gear" or have the PTO engaged and get off the seat.


OK...let me try to summarize...

Apparently there are some BX2200s out there with seat position sensing switches. Anybody have one? Anybody actually see one?

The BX1500 has these switches.

The BX1800 and Bx 2200s to come will probably have them. This is speculation, as until we find one with them we won't know for sure if they are there, or are going to be, or not.

Once we find a bx2200 or 1800 with them we will know they will be there forever after...

Soooooo...we know what the switch will cause to happen if it is there. Anyone seen one?

In any event, I have little faith in my dealer finding another dealer to give him a BX2200. So I will probably be waiting until he can get one direct from Kubota... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

At least if that happens I should be able to report if the seat position sensor switch exists or not on the newer tractors /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Do I got it right? Better go back and read the tread again I suppose... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

RonR · Jul 10, 2003

Hi Henro!

My BX2200 is three weeks old and yes, it has the seat safety switches.

I can't speak to others as my sample is ONE.

I don't see it as a big deal; if you go to N and set the park brake, you won't know it's there. Or just go to N and get off. It's only when you get off with it in gear and/or pto engaged that you have to flip the seat.

So far my Bota has exceeded my expectations. I'm going to get a box blade for it today and this weekend, will move/spread 10 tons of topsoil to fill a swimming pool hole. Last weekend, we moved 15 tons of sand. Worked flawlessly.

Good luck with your new tractor!

Ron

Henro · Jul 10, 2003

Re: Hi Henro!

RonR,

Well I guess that answers the question then. If one has them, then from that point forward all will have them... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Now if I end up with one that doesn't have those switches...well, I guess I will now it is an older one...

Thanks for taking the time to check this out and to post what you found Ron!

RonR · Jul 10, 2003

Not a problem

Just bought a five foot (ok, no flamers, ok) box blade. Plan to hook it up tonight and see what it will do. Will order 10 T of top soil tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Ron

Henro · Jul 10, 2003

Re: Not a problem

RonR,

It is probably too big for your tractor in terms of digging hard clay or so on. But for just dragging soil and smoothing it and making it look nice, etc, it will work fine I would expect.

You are really going to like what it does I bet. I have a 5 foot for my B2910...and don't think I would want a 6 footer...but I think a six footer would work for dragging dirt smooth...no doubt about that in my mind. Just the digging up hard clay that I would worry about...

By the way...did you post your comment in the thread you intended to? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

TresCrows · Jul 11, 2003

Re: Not a problem

"Just bought a five foot (ok, no flamers, ok) box blade. Plan to hook it up tonight and see what it will do. Will order 10 T of top soil tomorrow."

No flames from me. It is your money and your BX 2200--but---5 foot is way to big for a BX. You will probably be able to grade drives and drag it tilted back on hard surfaces but to break ground, dig and rip the BX2200 will not handle it. My 4 foot pushes it limits as it is. Wish you luck. My question, is the cheapest deal always the best deal? J

Henro · Jul 11, 2003

Re: Not a problem

 My question, is the cheapest deal always the best deal? J 

We had an observation about the company I used to work for...LTV...

They always seemed to take the lowest price on things, no matter how much it cost them!

Once one of the largest steel companies in the United States they gradually went belly up and now are gone forever... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

5030 · Jul 11, 2003

Bill:

1. You still haven't replied about whether you want a horse or not?

2. I see that you have had your posts re-installed, but not your singature picture. I'd suggest a NEW picture, with you wearing that nice hat I sent you!!!

3. I still think (it could be dangerous) that maybe you should change your site name to "eraser"

4. I can't afford 2 Kubota's at the same time, besides Amy would make me sleep in the camper. Now I know for sure that steelworkers have all the money!!

5030 · Jul 11, 2003

Bill:

On the subject of this thread, Don't you think that the interlock switches were put there for a reason? If they weren't there, Kubota probably would not be in business as they would have been sued out of business by attorneys pursuing wrongful injury lawsiuts!!!

You know, "big brother" again!!!!

Henro · Jul 11, 2003

Daryl,

After serious consideration I have to decline the offer of the horse. We'll stick with our geese...much lower maintenance...more time to maintain the tractor... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Don't you think that the interlock switches were put there for a reason? If they weren't there, Kubota probably would not be in business as they would have been sued out of business by attorneys pursuing wrongful injury lawsiuts!!!


Yep, I think you hit the nail on the head. A seat switch is there not because it is needed, but because of fear of unjustified lawsuits. Why would I need that switch on a little Bx2200 used for mostly grass cutting, but not on my larger B2910 that is mainly be used with loader/backhoe/PTO equipment?

Come to think of it...wet slopes are a danger...if they put a moisture detector on a tractor you bought, that would not let you run it if the ground was wet, would you disable that? My guess is that you would and I would too.

Or how about a height sensor for the loader. we all know that a loader up in the air is a tipping hazard when moving. There should be a safety cut out that shuts down the tractor if the loader is above hood level, shouldn't there?

And a seat belt senson like in my ford van....seat belt not buckled...tractor should shut down if put into gear...

And the list goes on.

Hey Kubota! Need an advisor? Let me help add those safety interlocks! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

FamilyFarm · Jul 16, 2003

Well here I am 10 days after the question was asked putting in my 2 cents worth!
I have a BX22 bought new last July. It has no safety switch related to the seat position. It has to be in neutral to start, nothing else. I can dismount with it in gear and with pto running and nothing shuts down.
I am training my sons to use the tractor and even though the extra safety features could be helpful, I don't want them to learn to depend on a safety switch anyway. I want them to know how to respect the tractor and all the damage it can do to a person or property - learn how to use it properly. I guess it is sort of like my Dad forcing me to learn to drive a manual transmission automobile. He said if I can master that, an automatic will be easy, but don't be handicapped by only being competent with the one. Who knows what tractor my child might end up driving someday? If all he knows is the tractor has enough safety switches on it to keep it safe, that one that doesn't may get him.
Just a thought . . . Terry
p.s. yes, my oldest son is learning to drive a 5-speed auto before being privileged to drive an auto trans /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Henro · Jul 24, 2003

I checked out the new BX2200 at the dealers today. Now it came from another dealer [still in crate] so it is not the most recent production model...Those will start appearing in August from what I understand.

No seat switch that I could find. Now I did not get off the tractor with the engine running...I will test that tomorrow after delivery. But I did lift the seat and take a good look. Nothing there...Just the way I want it... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Henro · Aug 4, 2003

Just to finish out this thread...I did get the bx2200 about 10 days ago and it did not have a seat safety switch.

Just put it in neutral and start it, then apparently nothing shuts it down except you turning the key off. This is what I wanted. I did not check yet, but I assume the bx will not start if the pto lever is engaged...I would hope not as I feel THAT IS an important safety feature...

I really love the bx as a grass cutter and little brother to my B2910... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Will_C · Aug 4, 2003

Bill, I saw a BX at a local fair last Saturday, and , that one had the seat switch. It seems like it is going to happen /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Will

Bobby417 · Dec 2, 2015

I posted a ? on another thread I started and realized now that it is my seat switch that is giving me problems. I have kept the seatbelt fastened for many years now and just recently has the issue started occurring. I can giggle the seat and it will start to stall if not in neutral. Can I override the switch somehow?

davesl708 · Dec 2, 2015

Bobby417 said:
I posted a ? on another thread I started and realized now that it is my seat switch that is giving me problems. I have kept the seatbelt fastened for many years now and just recently has the issue started occurring. I can giggle the seat and it will start to stall if not in neutral. Can I override the switch somehow?

My BX2200 did not come with a seat switch. A problem I had was the PTO switch button had worn down. I did an adjustment to the depress tab to compensate. Bypassing the switch could make you liable for an accident.

Bobby417 · Dec 2, 2015

not worried about liability I have kept the seatbelt fastened for years and have had tipped it 2X burying 3 horses. Not proud of that, my own stupidity for being complacent. Just want to bypass it and be done.