BX2200 4WD Click/Clunk noise and feeling

[DmaxDan]

Hi, New here and i hope im asking the right question but i just got a BX22 series recently and couldn't be happier, although with my lack of knowledge i do not know if this is normal or not.

When in 4wd i will hear and feel like a clicking noise from under my feet and ill also feel it as it happens.

Never in 2wd.

the longer i use 4wd the more consistent it becomes.

i looked around here and seen others suggesting its the plastic shroud on the front but i checked it and it doesnt seem to be making contact with the shaft at any point.

thank you!

 

[seville009]

Do you know if the 4wd is actually working (ie: are you in mud or something where you can see the front tire working)?

 

[DmaxDan]

yeah i can get the front tires spinning

 

[sandyc]

Don’t use 4wd on dry pavement.

 

[seville009]

Does it click in 4wd when going in reverse?


Have you been greasing the zerks along the front drieshaft and any other front end zerks?

 

[ptsg]

It could be the roll pins coming out of the u-joint and hitting the cover. I had that happening to me on a an older B7000. It actually pierced a couple holes on the cover and I had to remake the cover.

 

[DmaxDan]

i only use 4wd in the dirt when 2wd isnt enough,
And yeah it clicks in reverse too.
i greased all the zerks when i first got it (about 6hrs of use since then)


ill have to check out the roll pins, thanks!

 

[JWR]

I own one BX2200 and maintain another one. Neither one has such clicking in 4WD. As others said there may be something protruding from the shaft or u-joints getting power to the front wheels. The fact that you feel it underfoot is significant.

 

[DmaxDan]

That settles it, i wont use 4wd until i find the issue, i dont want to risk damaging it or damaging it further.

 

[zoltanthegypsy]

The forward drive shaft turns in 2wd and 4wd so whatever is going on may be loading-related and not just protruding parts. Good idea to avoid 4wd since that's when you notice it, but you may want to chase it down ASAP in any event. If something is getting cockeyed under load it may surprise you at some point when not in 4wd.

my $.02,
Zoltan

 

[diesel85]

I have a feeling that it's not the drive line itself. I have a feeling it might be the bevel gears in the axle if the operator is feeling it on the floorboard.

 

[DmaxDan]

Well after work tomorrow ill remove the deck and drive it up on ramps to get a good look at all of this to see if its something visually wrong.

 

[5030]

Sounds to me like one of the outboards is taking a dump.

 

[DmaxDan]

Sounds to me like one of the outboards is taking a dump.

What's an outboard?

 

[diesel85]

What's an outboard?

They are referring to the same thing I'm referring to. It's the hub case where the bevel gears are that change the direction of the rotation from the prop shaft to the wheels.

 

[DmaxDan]

They are referring to the same thing I'm referring to. It's the hub case where the bevel gears are that change the direction of the rotation from the prop shaft to the wheels.

Ah, anyway to check that? Im guessing remove the prop shaft and a yoke of some kind to see inside?

 

[Carl_NH]

Take it out of 4WD and use the loader to lift up the front wheels (or jack it up) then you should be able to turn the one wheel and it will turn the other too. If you have resistance or hear the clicking noise you have isolated it now.

 

[DmaxDan]

Take it out of 4WD and use the loader to lift up the front wheels (or jack it up) then you should be able to turn the one wheel and it will turn the other too. If you have resistance or hear the clicking noise you have isolated it now.

okay, just got back in from doing that, theres no resistance, the wheels spin extremely easily and spinning one it will turn the other as well.
although it's not silent. i can hear the gears match the speed i spin the tire. faster i spin it the faster i hear the gears.
slightly like putting a piece of paper in a desk fan i guess if i had to describe the noise.

Although i did inspect the propshaft and ujoints as well, im not sure of the tolerances that they should have but they seem loose, the u-joint on the transmission side is tight on the side with the transmission but the side on the propshaft can me moved up/down/left/right with ease.
then on the axle side i can move that ujoint with the same amount of play.

 

[Carl_NH]

When you turn the one wheel does the other one turn immediately (you can judge the play/backlash in the gears) and if it turns in sync with very little play it's likely OK. I don't like the "paper in fan" noise but a slight whirring is normal.

I am not that familiar with the BX drive train to say if play in the U-joints is off, but I don't think there should be side-side play in these joints - you could have a roll pin out or some other mechanical issue - thats where I would start.

here's a link to Messicks drive train parts to help you figure our where the play is Kubota BX2200D (4WD DSL TRA W/ROPS & S.B. W/O TIRES) Parts

 

[DmaxDan]

When you turn the one wheel does the other one turn immediately (you can judge the play/backlash in the gears) and if it turns in sync with very little play it's likely OK. I don't like the "paper in fan" noise but a slight whirring is normal.

I am not that familiar with the BX drive train to say if play in the U-joints is off, but I don't think there should be side-side play in these joints - you could have a roll pin out or some other mechanical issue - thats where I would start.

here's a link to Messicks drive train parts to help you figure our where the play is Kubota BX2200D (4WD DSL TRA W/ROPS & S.B. W/O TIRES) Parts

It has about 2-5 degrees of play before the other wheel moves, almost even movement.