BX2230 vs. TZ24DA

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ( People say I'm no good, crazy as a loon. Cause I boxblade in the mornin, and mow in the afternoon. ) )</font>
Funny, that's exactly what I did today. Just worked out that way, and I was sure HOT mowing a field. It's all good. John

 

[bandit67]

None of you guys are being very helpful to me on this thread. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif It seems that I should choose NH or Kubota based on which dealer I like best. Well, 2 local dealers sell BOTH. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Now what am I supposed to do? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Actually, one of them also sells the Case/Farmall DX24E, which is supposedly the same as the NH, except for color & grille & headlights. The Case is $350 less than the NH, and the Kubota is $625 less than the Case.

So I guess I'm seriously considering the Case and the Kubota. But I still haven't decided. I have till June 30th to decide if I want the Case, and July 12th for the Kubota, to take advantage of the financing deal.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

OK, then let me help. Buy the Case/Farmall. It will give you a full Cat 1 hitch while the BX gives you a limited Cat 1 hitch.

Since money seems to be a major concern, you will have spent a bit more on the actual tractor buying the Farmall, however, you will be able to buy standard implements for the 3pt as opposed to the "estate size" implements which are scaled down to fit the BX. The problem with the "estate size" implements is that they seem to only come from the premium implement manufacturers and therefore come at a premium price. That said, in the long run, as you accumulate a few implements, the prices of those implements will likely save you more than that differential in the 2 tractors. Further, you will also save the grief of modifying any implements to fit the BX if you buy a standard implement, so you will save grief too. Further, the Farmall will have more lift on the 3pt so you will get greater ground clearance when transporting all the above implements.

See that was an easy decision! Get the Farmall.

 

[AndyM]

<font color="blue"> The problem with the "estate size" implements is that they seem to only come from the premium implement manufacturers and therefore come at a premium price. </font>

Tractor Supply Company is selling the XB line of implements from King Kutter, right next to King Kutter's full size line. However, as you said, they are smaller but cost more than their larger counterparts.

By purchasing the Case or New Holland, it will give you many more choices of implement brands to decide on, rather than a select few at a slightly higher cost.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

AndyM, I didn't realize that KK had entered the scaled down implement business. But it is kind of odd that the smaller implements come at higher prices! I suppose that is a supply & demand issue. As a percentage of CUTs, the majority use regular size implements which means the supply is greater, competition exists, ect. Not so with the "estate size" implements I guess.

 

[AndyMA]

Just rember not only are the implements scaled down in size, scaled up in price, they are also SCALED DOWN in strength. Go for the full size Cat I implements.

Andy

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Thats not nessesary the case across the board. The Woods estate line is a case in point. There price difference between standard and light duty is very small, the princple difference is the width of the pins, build quality is the same.

Part of buying this stuff from TSC is taking the gamble that its going to fit your tractor and never need parts. They probably went some where and had a low volume run done on an estate size product. Thus the higher price.

 

[Rainbow6]

It never hurts to have more than you need, but from your original post I think the BX2230 will more than meet your needs.

 

[bandit67]

Well, I drove an hour to a dealer on Friday that sells Case, NH, and Kubota to look at the 3 different machines. And he apparently sells quite a lot of Kubotas in my area (even though there is a NH/Kubota dealer 20 minutes away), and won't charge additional for delivery.

I put a deposit on the Case. I liked the color scheme and front grille more than I thought I would (and more than the NH - no offense blue owners, just my personal opinion), and although the 3 pt hitch was a consideration, it turns out that the curved loader arms were what really sold me on the Case IH Farmall machine made by Case New Holland. How's that for corporate name recognition?

The Case came in $360 less than the NH, and $700 more than the Kubota. The dealership seems to be on the up-and-up, and although it seems that dealers in other parts of the country seem to sell a bit cheaper than the ones out here, I'm satisfied with the price I paid.

In addition, my tractor, loader, and MMM were still in the crates and wrap, so they are assembling it this week. I will have it before the 4th of July weekend, maybe even this coming weekend. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Just hope those turf tires will do the job when I'm doing dirt work - it would be months before I could get a set of bar tires. I'm trying to decide if I should order a 2nd set of rims and bar tires (and wait a while for them), order bars from the local tire shop and swap the turfs out, or get a set of chains. I think the chains will be a bit of a hassle when doing dirt work, and then needing to cross lawn and/or paved surfaces.

Oh, and by the way, all the comments were actually very helpful. There's just a lot to sort through when buying one of these machines.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

I think you made a great choice.

I've posted several times regarding the advantages of the curved loader arms and it is nice to hear someone else compare the curved versus straight arms, side by side, and see the big differences I found. I think New Holland really hit on something with those curved arms. Extending them to the Farmalls is a natural. Kioti is the only other machine out there with curved arms and they also have a sloped and rounded hood to go with the curved arms so if I was doing a lot of loader work, and if I chose not to get a Power Trac (the best choice for loader-tractors) then the best choices are the New Holland, Farmall and CK series Kioti.