BX2360 stability/reliability

[c5er]

I have just seen a number of bad reviews of the 2350, related to its stability when using the FEL, 1 review said it was unstable on all but flat ground. I was just about to trade my B7610 in on 2360 since i am really scaling back in my yard. My 7610 had the FEL and 60" deck - no filled tires or rear weights and I bombed around on that with full buckes or topsoil or gravel , and with the exception of a few scary minutes on hills I never felt there was a stability concern.

My question is, will i notice a stability problem moving from my 7610 to a 2360? I dont recall the WB or width specs being all that much different between the two tractors.

Additionally i have had 250 hrs of trouble free issues from my 7610 as well as regraded the gravel driveway numerous times with the bucket, and although there is paint where i never noticed any metal wear. But some of the reviews i read suggest the bucket edge wore out fast.

lastly, whats the dal with the heat exchange for the hydrostatic breaking on the 2350s, is the same design used on the 2360s?

Thanks.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Keep the bucket close to the ground and they should not be any less stable than any other BX. Somrtimes "reviews" are done by idiots....uh let me tone back and say sometimes "reviews" are done by people that have no idea of what the product they are testing is supposed to do and how to safely do it. Is that better?

 

[LBrown59]

1*I have just seen a number of bad reviews of the 2350, related to its stability when using the FEL,
1 review said it was unstable on all but flat ground.
2*I was just about to trade my B 7610 in on a 2360 since I am really scaling back in my yard.
My 7610 had the FEL and 60" deck - no filled tires or rear weights and I bombed around on that with full buckets of topsoil or gravel , and with the exception of a few scary minutes on hills
3*I never felt there was a stability concern.
4*My question is, will I notice a stability problem moving from my 7610 to a 2360?
5*I don't recall the WB or width specs being all that much different between the two tractors.
Additionally I have had 250 hrs of trouble free issues from my 7610 as well as re graded the gravel driveway numerous times with the bucket, and although there is paint where I never noticed any metal wear.
6*But some of the reviews I read suggest the bucket edge wore out fast.
7*lastly, what's the deal with the heat exchange for the hydrostatic breaking on the 2350's, is the same design used on the 2360's?
Thanks.
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1*Where was it being reviewed and who was doing the reviewing ?
Surely It wasn't anybody on here. Folks here know better than that.
I hate reviews by the misinformed.
2*Talk about unstable:
IF you never recognized the instability of that situation you shan't gonad notice anything about a BX1500.
3*There was a stability concern you just never realized it.
Any time a FEL is used without the proper amount of counter balance there is indeed a great concern about stability .
The situation you described with your B 2610 is 5 times more precarious than any stability issue with the BX1500 real or imagined.
4*What do you think after what I just told you?
5*The B 7610 has a much higher center of gravity than the BX1500.
The lower the CG the better the stability.
I've been on both sizes of theses tractors.
I felt uneasy on the Bigger B7610 even on level ground but I did not feel that way at all on the BX.
I can assure you that if the review was correct/true about the BX I would not own 3 of them.
6*Never seen that come to pass either.
7*Never heard of any such issue.

 

[bp fick]

I suspect the issue on the HST cooling MIGHT be in reference to the HST cooling fan. If so, let's be very forward and straight here. Coming from a B, you will have to adjust to the lower ground clearance of the BX. This puts the HST fan closer to danger, yup, there is no doubt. It is vulnerable. You just have to know that and adapt. Were the Bs totally immune?

That said, Kubota has taken steps to better protect the fan with a new shroud and you would likely get that protector on a new BX, but do check visually!! If it's relatively new stock, it will be there.

If you are in maintenance mode and do not go taking your BX through the woods, or if you are really concerned, people either buy or build a skid plate for armor and rest easy. Leaving the MMM on also works, of course.

BTW, if you have heard reports of certain BXs and Bs of the last generation having "sudden jerk" syndrome, well, some did. The new BXxx60 series does not have that issue. Hope this info helps.

Honestly, folks here who own the new BXxx60 tractors absolutely love 'em. You would get an very long line of testifiers for that!!!

 

[LBrown59]

Keep the bucket close to the ground and they should not be any less stable than any other BX.
1* Somrtimes "reviews" are done by idiots....uh let me tone back and
2* say sometimes "reviews" are done by people that have no idea of what the product they are testing is supposed to do and how to safely do it.
3*Is that better?

3*Actually I like 1* better than 2*

 

[radioman]

c5er- If you are worriedd about stability issues, why not add liquid ballast in the tires, it will lower the cog and feel more secure- regardless what dealer might say. next- I never heard of hydrostatic heat issues on the BX's so my advice would be ignore the rumor or post the source of info..

I was wondering why do you want to move down in size ? too big ? Most people move up, not down with tractors.

 

[c5er]

I lost the site reference where the review was. Everything else I have seen, besides those couple reviews, has been very positive which is why I decided to make the move to the BX, but after seeing those i wanted to make sure the guy was either an idiot or just worried about everything.

The 2360 i am looking at is a demo with a few hours on it. Its a 2008 2360 (not a 2350) . Does anyone know what changes happen to 2360 from 08 to 09 or from early 09 to late 09?

Thanks for you swift input, i feel back to where i was this morning.

 

[c5er]

i found the link for the unstable review, it was on a 2350.

http://www.********************.com/review/Kubota/BX2350.aspx

 

[c5er]

********************.com/review/Kubota/BX2350.aspx

 

[c5er]

www*compact tractor review*com/review/Kubota/BX2350.aspx

 

[bp fick]

I lost the site reference where the review was. Everything else I have seen, besides those couple reviews, has been very positive which is why I decided to make the move to the BX, but after seeing those i wanted to make sure the guy was either an idiot or just worried about everything.

The 2360 i am looking at is a demo with a few hours on it. Its a 2008 2360 (not a 2350) . Does anyone know what changes happen to 2360 from 08 to 09 or from early 09 to late 09?

Thanks for you swift input, i feel back to where i was this morning.

Not surprised the review was of the xx50 series.

Well, "model years" are a touchy subject, as Kubota says a 2360 is a 2360 whenever it was built. BUT... if it is older stock, it won't likely have the improved HST protector, and in my opinion, I would insist dealer order it for you. His cost is like $35. Shoot, you can install it, or have him do so.

That's it. This is the only mid-model improvement of which I am aware.
The part # of the shroud is on the forum here. We can look it up for ya.

BTW, the 60 has a better seat too!!!

 

[bp fick]

Quote:
There was a change in the fan guard, there is a Serial Number break, the
new fan guard is slightly larger and will fit the older machines. There is
no provision to provide this for free, you can purchase it from your
dealer.

Part number for the new guard is K2681-21212

Kubota Customer Service

Here is a photo of mine. Notice, it is about 12" deep. If yours looks about 6 inches deep, it is NOT the newest version.

 

[TripleR]

I have a BX2660 and love it, it is essentially the same as a BX2360 except more hp and different seat. I previously owned a BX2200 and also liked it. I added wheel weights instead of fluid and advise anyone who uses a FEL on any tractor to load their tires one way or the other.

As to the HST fan, you can get a cover from you dealer or Bro Tek , I ordered the front and rear plate and steering protector from Bro Tek this week.

 

[bp fick]

I have just seen a number of bad reviews of the 2350, related to its stability when using the FEL, 1 review said it was unstable on all but flat ground. I was just about to trade my B7610 in on 2360 since i am really scaling back in my yard. .

My question is, will i notice a stability problem moving from my 7610 to a 2360? I dont recall the WB or width specs being all that much different between the two tractors.

Thanks.

I tracked down some of those "reviews" that you were concerned about. Actually, reviews is a pretty fuzzy word for these posts. These are simply posts, not unlike the comments posted here at TBN. As I read through them, it was obvious that some, in particular the one that likely concerned you most, was a disgruntled buyer. An open "review" forum provides a public place to grind an axe. Such can always be found. Overall, the "reviews" showed a distinctly high level of satisfaction with the BX.

Bad "reviews" can come from simply getting the occasional lemon, as yes, it happens. But usually, such negative feedback comes from a buyer who made an error in his/her purchase in the first place, didn't understand, miscalculated their needs or the nature of such machinery. We used in say in social research, throw out the top 5% and the bottom 5% and then process and evaluate what's left. That is still good advice. If you do that with these customer posted "reviews", the axe grinders on the bottom and the boosterism on the top, the picture is much clearer.

 

[DavidAubke]

From one of the more negative reviews:

"Rear and/or front tires will lift off ground when turning on even slightly uneven terrain when using FEL with a light load." - I would characterize this as a substantial exaggeration. Still, it isn't difficult to get this to happen with a full bucket on bumpy slopes.

"Thermostat reads in red in summer, but doesn't seem that overheating is occuring." - Does seem to read hot but I've never gotten into red.

"Shift levers on left side interfere with driver mounting & dismounting." - I've snagged clothing on the right side lever more than once. Bent it over sideways.

"Levers & linkages tend to fill with dirt, leaves & debris and inhibit function." - Where is he driving that thing?

"BRAKE PEDAL HEIGHT is same as HST pedal and latter is easily depressed when trying to brake if driver's foot is wider than Barbie Doll's." - I just recently started noticing this too.

"'Cruise Control' is difficult to release when tractor is moving and has caused several panic situations for me." - Maybe after he's been mud-boggin'. Never been an issue for me

"This tractor requires constant adjustment of system components just to maintian operability of basic functions." - What's "constant" over the course of three years? I haven't had to make adjustments in within my first 80 hours.

"Three point hitch capability is limited as machine is not proportionally correct for common compact implements" - Mine's hooked up to everything I've backed up to so far.

"NOTICE that even next bigger size model of Kubota has a fold-down ROPS, indicating constant roll-over risk from Mfgr's. liability perspective and indicating that dagerous problem was noted by manufacturer before marketing." - Not necessarily a valid conclusion. I concluded it was a cost savings.

I think many of his complaints are valid but they're more than balanced by all of the machine's strengths. I don't know why he left all of those strengths out but it's certainly not because they don't exist. My BX2350 has pleasantly surprised me on more than one occasion pulling off feats that I didn't expect from it. Of course, I don't yet have the requisite "2.5 - 3+ YEARS OF USE" so take it for what it's worth.

 

[c5er]

With my 7610 i know exactly what I can do and have been very pleased. I could of course keep this tractor and use it at the new house. Its just that its way overkill for the new yard. Moving to the bx i get a new tractor under warr, a couple hours vs 250 and a more size appropriate tractor. The one thing i was never happy with was the mowing quality with the 60" deck, Seems like the bx and a 54" may do a better job.

So mostly I am just worried about kicking myself latter saying I should have kept the 7610. But then again if keep the 7610 and anything breaks i might be kicking for now replacing it.

In the end i think the bx is the right move. I am going to ask for the skid guard to alleviate that concern.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[LBrown59]

I tracked down some of those "reviews" that you were concerned about. Actually, reviews is a pretty fuzzy word for these posts. These are simply posts, not unlike the comments posted here at TBN. As I read through them, it was obvious that some, in particular the one that likely concerned you most, was a disgruntled buyer. An open "review" forum provides a public place to grind an axe. Such can always be found. Overall, the "reviews" showed a distinctly high level of satisfaction with the BX.

Bad "reviews" can come from simply getting the occasional lemon, as yes, it happens. But usually, such negative feedback comes from a buyer who made an error in his/her purchase in the first place, didn't understand, miscalculated their needs or the nature of such machinery. We used in say in social research, throw out the top 5% and the bottom 5% and then process and evaluate what's left. That is still good advice. If you do that with these customer posted "reviews", the axe grinders on the bottom and the boosterism on the top, the picture is much clearer.

Short Version: Don't know what the Heck they're talkin about.

 

[LBrown59]

c5er- If you are worriedd about stability issues, why not add liquid ballast in the tires, it will lower the cog and feel more secure- regardless what dealer might say. next- I never heard of hydrostatic heat issues on the BX's so my advice would be ignore the rumor or post the source of info..
I was wondering why do you want to move down in size ? too big ? Most people move up, not down with tractors.

Better yet get the facts before stewing over nothing.
Just an observatiom but I've found it amazing how somebody will get all bent out of shape over some disgruntled net wits false/incorrect statements while at the same ignoring dozens of others positive comments .
Don't know what makes people think the nut case is right and everybody else is wrong.
Haven't figured that one out yet.
I think he is moving to a smaller property.
Another reason is getting the larger projects that required the larger tractor completed or caught up there by a smaller tractor becomes more than adequate.

 

[LBrown59]

I lost the site reference where the review was. Everything else I have seen, besides those couple reviews, has been very positive which is why I decided to make the move to the BX, but after seeing those i wanted to make sure the guy was either an idiot or just worried about everything.

The 2360 i am looking at is a demo with a few hours on it. Its a 2008 2360 (not a 2350) . Does anyone know what changes happen to 2360 from 08 to 09 or from early 09 to late 09?

Thanks for you swift input, i feel back to where i was this morning.

The review was a 2350 you are talking about a 2360 so why were you concerned about the 2360?

 

[LBrown59]

With my 7610 i know exactly what I can do and have been very pleased. I could of course keep this tractor and use it at the new house. Its just that its way overkill for the new yard. Moving to the bx i get a new tractor under warr, a couple hours vs 250 and a more size appropriate tractor. The one thing i was never happy with was the mowing quality with the 60" deck, Seems like the bx and a 54" may do a better job.

So mostly I am just worried about kicking myself latter saying I should have kept the 7610. But then again if keep the 7610 and anything breaks i might be kicking for now replacing it.

*In the end i think the bx is the right move. I am going to ask for the skid guard to alleviate that concern.

Thanks for all the help.

*I think so too.