BX23S - Should i keep the fuel filter

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I bought a kabota fuel filter assembly (part #15521-43015) to install just under the floor pan on the left side of the tractor. My plan is to install it before the lift pump. My question is, would you keep the little OEM filter can thats under the seat in-line within the fuel system, or just remove it all together from the tractor. I thought about just relocating it in front of the new fuel filter assembly where it can be changed out easier. My concern with leaving it within the fuel trail is, will it put to much strain on the lift pump having the 3rd filter. And another thought, i live in a cold climate area... me thinks that the little OEM filter would cause a restriction in the winter months.
 
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What is the purpose of this additional filter? If it's designed as a specific Kubota accessory, it should have instructions on how to install it.

I don't believe I would be altering the factory engineered fuel system. Might also verify this won't affect your factory warranty.
 
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It wont void any warranties... i already confirmed this with kabota BEFORE i bought it, they agreed with my assessment that it would be a far better filter system. It is also a factory OEM fuel filter assembly thru kabota. It came as a complete bolt-on kit with very good instructions, all the hoses, clamps, brass fittings, mounting clips to bolt the entire fuel hose`s to the frame. The kit came with the mounting bracket to install the filter. This kit is mean`t for the BX sub compact tractors. (complete kit cost me $175 free shipping - Ebay)

I`m only installing it so that i can keep a better eye on whats going thru the fuel system and drain off water before it hits the injector pump. And its alot easier to change the filter cartridge rather than crawling under the tractor to fix a gelled up "tiny" filter in the middle of the winter. This filter assembly makes changing a filter cartridge a breeze... 5 mins tops, back up an running. The filter cartridge`s are only $3.90 thru the kabota dealer...thats cheaper than the stock OEM tiny filter. Adding this fuel filter assembly is one of the best things you can do for your BX series tractors in my own opinion. The tiny little filters are extremely difficult not only to change, but to just get at, especially in the winter. The majority of problems are usually in the winter... i dont want to be crawling under the tractor in the middle of the cold months.
 
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Good idea, the little filters suck and plug up easy. Get rid of the little one at the back and leave the one up near the engine.
 
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Just make sure you have a filter ahead of lift pump.
 
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Just make sure you have a filter ahead of lift pump.

Yup for sure, my plan is to hook the filter kit up BEFORE the lift pump and leave the factory tiny filter before the injection pump.
This should protect everything after the tank and before anything hits the injection pump.
Also running full strength PS Diesel Kleen, sliver summer, white winter.

Basically, all i`m doing is installing the new filter kit in place of the tiny OEM filter that it came with, back at the lift pump area.
Only thing different will be where i install the new filter kit at... it`ll live just under the floor pan attached to the FEL frame tube.
But it will definitely be installed before the lift pump. Tank line to new filter kit, then to lift pump, to front filter, to injection pump.

Delete rear filter, new filter with sight bowl will replace the rear filter.
 
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As long as you don't restrict the fuel flow excessively, there is no such thing as too many filters. I have a cartridge type filter on my fuel cart and filter the fuel as it enters the tank. I never once had to replace the factory filter on my L3430 in the 10 years (1400 hrs) I owned it. I replace the cartridge filter annual. It takes all of 30 seconds and requires no fuel system bleeding.
 
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Good idea, the little filters suck and plug up easy. Get rid of the little one at the back and leave the one up near the engine.

Thats my plan dodge man...
i`m glad i spent the $175 now, for this kit, its far cheaper than a new injection pump. That rear filter is in the history books...!!!! lol
Of course, not to mention, i can stay ahead of the winter game of frozen filters, as well as watch for condensation building up in the sight bowl.
 
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As long as you don't restrict the fuel flow excessively, there is no such thing as too many filters. I have a cartridge type filter on my fuel cart and filter the fuel as it enters the tank. I never once had to replace the factory filter on my L3430 in the 10 years (1400 hrs) I owned it. I replace the cartridge filter annual. It takes all of 30 seconds and requires no fuel system bleeding.

Your L series has a much better filter system, the BX series are very weak in that respect.
So that why i`m changing mine to a better fuel filter system... seconds to change, back on the road to workin.
 
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Good plan. And I would loose the OEM filter. There is no need to keep it after installing the new and upgraded fuel filter assembly.
 
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Good plan. And I would loose the OEM filter. There is no need to keep it after installing the new and upgraded fuel filter assembly.

I was thinking of keeping it in the tractor but relocate it closer to the new filter kit so that it would be easier to change out.
But the more i think about it, i dont think i really need it at all, as this new kit is superior over that little OEM canned filter.
 
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i dont think i really need it at all, as this new kit is superior over that little OEM canned filter.
That is just what I was trying to point out to you. ;)
 
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That is just what I was trying to point out to you. ;)

Yes, i knew you had said that, and i had thought it over before you responded.
So its kind of redundant to keep it in there, so its my fault for really saying anything about it to start with.
 
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PaPow, can you provide the Kubota part# for the kit? My dealer has no idea about it. Some pictures of the kit and your install would also be nice so we can visualize the system.

Ron

Ron,
your right, your dealer has no idea because i bought the complete kit off from ebay for $175 (ebay name: botasandy)
The folks i bought the kit from actually build the kit... The filter assembly itself is genuine kabota item and the dealer can get them.
The filter assembly is actually made for the M5700 kabota tractor #15521-43015 (costs around $50 to $60 just for the filter assembly)

These folks make up all the correct hoses`s & brass fitting`s to do the complete install. Their work is absolutely stunning.
They send VERY detailed instructions on how to install it. It also comes WITH the special built mount to install it on the BX tractors.

I will try to post it in here where i bought the kit.
Kubota BX Fuel Filter relocation kit BX237,BX24,BX25D,BX23S FEL L24,L243,L34 | eBay
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This kit DOES come with only one filter cartridge, the cartridge itself is only $3.90 when you buy one from the kabota dealer.
 
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For what it's worth here's a link to a discussion of Racor brand water fuel separators used in marine applications. Everything about the filtration holds true for tractor diesels too; and there is mention of too many filters adversely affecting overall engine performance.

I think this link provides useful information about why fuel water separator filter, where the water/sediment/sludge that might be in one's diesel supply in microscopic amounts is worthwhile keeping from the injection pump/injectors.

Racor News

BTW, OP it's Kubota not Kabota....
 
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For what it's worth here's a link to a discussion of Racor brand water fuel separators used in marine applications. Everything about the filtration holds true for tractor diesels too; and there is mention of too many filters adversely affecting overall engine performance.

I think this link provides useful information about why fuel water separator filter, where the water/sediment/sludge that might be in one's diesel supply in microscopic amounts is worthwhile keeping from the injection pump/injectors.

Racor News

BTW, OP it's Kubota not Kabota....

Yep i`m very aware of flow issues with increased filters installed in-line, but thank you for adding the link though.
BTW, theres plenty enough political correctness going around today...i`m sure everyone knows what where talking about in here...thank you.
 
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I did the same with my ZD 326 and 331, which had the 2 small filters. I opted to use a large 2u spin on canister filter as the first filter though.
 
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Like reading these filter stories. I finally changed my first one on my F3080 after 160 hours and still not sure I needed to do it. First one with over 20 Kubotas owned. Dealer used to give them to me when I'd buy a new Kubota so I have a few in stock along with many, many, many gallons of SUDT which he also gave me which I don't change until hours stated in owners manual says to. Not the guy that changes every 20/40/60/100 yhours so I can sleep beter and never had any issues doing it my way, so far. :)
I guess if one has ever had an issue with bad fuel that gets thru their filter they will have strong feeling about getting the best filter possible wile 98%/99% of us never give it much thought and seldom or ever do anything about them unless our Kubotas start sputtering. :)
If something makes one feel better, sleep better and believes they are extending the life of their machine another 2 or 3 hours then I say go for it and don't worry about the money. Piece of mind is priceless. Problem sometimes gets to be that the person believes it's important enough to try and get other people to also do it actually believing it's that important. :D
 
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20+ Kubotas? Some people don't own them long enough to concern themselves with changing fuel filters, just change the whole tractor. :laughing: :rolleyes:

Others who purchase one or two tractors in their lifetime or aren't as financially well off are more meticulous about the maintenance of their equipment and take extra steps to keep them in top shape and trouble free for as long as possible, whether those extra steps are warranted or not. ;)
 

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