BX24 Comparable Models

[IslandTractor]

Great, if I ever have the need to pull another tractor backwards while it's trying to drive in the other direction I'm sure I'll find this a useful feature......
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It is actually a pretty decent way to compare which tractor would pull a ground engaging implement better. The tractor v tractor pull tests a combination of power, traction, weight, gearing etc. The BX is light and they often have turf tires so that was likely a part of the story too. I can never keep straight whether HP or torque is more important with these grunt tasks but I'd guess that the two tractors are pretty close in torque produced as the BX is probably not producing maximum torque at 3200 rpms while the Mahindra is likely pretty close to it's max torque at 2600.

Bottom line for me is that the BX excels at mowing and does the other tasks very capably. The heavier competition in that general hp range (eg the Mahindra, Kioti etc) will not finish mow nearly as well but have advantages related to their weight and more powerful loaders.

 

[Volfandt]

It is actually a pretty decent way to compare which tractor would pull a ground engaging implement better. The tractor v tractor pull tests a combination of power, traction, weight, gearing etc.

Not necessarily, a ground engagement implement won't be powering in the opposite direction.
With regards to the BX TLB models, the additional 1000lbs of weight diminishes it's superb lawn care capabilities while increasing it's material handling/digging capabilities. The fact that it can easily switch between "modes" actually add's to it's versitility.
Course it IS a subcut and is not a cut so it's primary purpose in it's "estate maintenance" role is finish mowing, hence it's lighter weight.
If one's primary purpose iis ground engagement I definitely wouldn't be looking at a subcut as thats not what it is primarily designed for, I'd be looking at a cut and/or even a utility sized tractor as THATS what they're primarily designed for.

 

[IslandTractor]

Not necessarily, a ground engagement implement won't be powering in the opposite direction. .

I'm not a Newtonian physicist but I not sure it matters whether the opposing force is static (ground engaging) or dynamic (other tractor). In both cases the resisting force vector is directly backwards. I suppose to some extent a ground engaging tool would also put more weight on the rear wheels both with weight of tool and through any downward vector associated with pulling through dirt etc. That might influence traction I suppose if that was the main reason the BX lost the pulling contest.

I agree with your basic analysis though. The BX class is great at finish mowing and a very capable Swiss army knife TLB. If I could afford another tractor I'd get either a BX24 or PowerTrac 425 as my Swiss army knife.

 

[Volfandt]

I'm not a Newtonian physicist but I not sure it matters whether the opposing force is static (ground engaging) or dynamic (other tractor).

Nor I but I have to disagree with your premise. I contend that a powered opposing force that is applying it's force in the opposite direction of the force that is trying to pull it is applying quite a bit more opposing force than it would be if it were "static".
This is easily proven by hooking a chain to the rear of tractor A and the other end of the chain to the rear of tractor B then drive tractor A forward so as to pull tractor B with it's engine off. This will constitute the "static" test. (similar to using an implement).
Then, start tractor B's engine and run it up to it's rated PTO rpm, engage it's drive system then simultaniously have both tractors attempt to drive forward.
This will constitute the "powered" test.
You will find that tractor A's ability to pull tractor B in static mode is much greater and easier than when tractor B is opposing tractor A's force with it's own power.
Course a larger rear tire size as well as more tractor weight will be an advantage in pulling a lighter tractor with smaller rear tires, even if the engine hp were similar.

So IMHO, the ability for one tractor to pull another when both are opposing each others driving force is basically a useless exercise that doesn't measure either tractors ability to perform it's entended task.

Course I'm not saying it's not fun, only irrellevant in measureing it's working ability......

 

[IslandTractor]

I contend that a powered opposing force that is applying it's force in the opposite direction of the force that is trying to pull it is applying quite a bit more opposing force than it would be if it were "static".....

Maybe we need a new forum on tractor physics. Perhaps as a subcategory of the infamous oils and lubricants section.

Until then I'll wait until a high school physics teacher logs in to clarify matters for us.

 

[Engine66]

Many of the machines mentioned are worthy in their own way. The BX24 has a great reputation and is engineered from ground up to be what it is. All specs aside, check out the ergonomics and operations in person. Also, I am a believer in dealer support after many disappointing after-sale problems with my dealer and warranty issues. I currently have a JD 2305 and am not trying to steer you that way, but give it a thumbs up and bought it based on my dealer experience. Whatever you get, post some pics...and enjoy the ride.