BX24 stalled out under load. Now will not start. Suggestions?

[tippytappy]

Was plowing today so engine load was kinda heavy. Quite a bit of jostling around. Engine died, plow too deep, too much load. This has occurred many times before. What is different is tractor will not restart. No cranking. Turn the key and typical pre-start functions occur (the dashboard does it thing and the pump starts pumping) but then no starter cranking. All the cables appear to be attached. The pedals are neutral. I read in a previous post about centering the pedal. Any ideas? Can稚 find my manual. Still in storage. Thanks.

 

[ning]

With all of the jostling my bet would be on a safety interlock having come disconnected. I don't know the tractor but maybe something like a pto switch being engaged, or the seat safety not being in the right state. Otherwise it sounds like a mostly-dead battery but with that you usually at least get a click.

Was plowing today so engine load was kinda heavy. Quite a bit of jostling around. Engine died, plow too deep, too much load. This has occurred many times before. What is different is tractor will not restart. No cranking. Turn the key and typical pre-start functions occur (the dashboard does it thing and the pump starts pumping) but then no starter cranking. All the cables appear to be attached. The pedals are neutral. I read in a previous post about centering the pedal. Any ideas? Can稚 find my manual. Still in storage. Thanks.

 

[tippytappy]

The only clicking is when the key is turned to the first position, when the glow plug does it thing, the click of the pump ( I think it痴 a pump) and the gauges reset. Other than that, turning the key to the second position, when it normally will begin to crank and start, there is nothing. Will check the cables again tomorrow. Thnx.

 

[diesel85]

Check all of your interlocks and cables that go to them.

Also, jostling a battery can also cause the plates weld themselves and cause a short in the battery.

I had this happen when I took a battery out of my tractor to clean the radiator. Took the cables off and the bracket. Slid the battery out, but set it down a little hard. Next thing I hear is fizzing and popping inside of the battery. Knowing what happened, I put my meter on it, and it read ~5 volts. Prior to that it was working fine. Luckily where I parked it to do work on it, I was able to slide my truck out to go to the auto parts store to buy a new battery.

Doubt that is the problem, but eh, you never know.

 

[Henro]

Since you are not even hearing a click sound when you try to start it, chances are pretty good the issue is in the safety circuit that provides the voltage to the starter solenoid, when the key is turned to the start position.

If so, the safety circuit issue could have occurred at any point after you last started the tractor, and the problem may be unrelated to the tractor stalling under load.

Try measuring voltage at the starter solenoid terminal when the key is turned to the start position. Finding no voltage there, or very low voltage, will confirm it is a safety circuit issue.

If so, you could apply 12 volts directly to the solenoid terminal and start the engine that way. Doing so could be dangerous due to possible unexpected movement of something, so you may not want to do this.

Try moving and repositioning all the levers that have contacts in the safety circuit (PTO, seat possibly, directional pedal(a second time) etc.

Since you were plowing, check the wires going to the directional pedal safety switch. Perhaps something damaged one since that area might have been closest to the ground.

Just a few thoughts...you will fix the tractor...

Added thought: you could try moving the functions that are in the safety circuit while holding the key in the start position, in case something went out of adjustment. If the starter activates while a lever is moved you will know where the problem is.

 

[tippytappy]

Tested the battery both with load and no load. 12V. Tested the cable connection from battery at starter solenoid also 12V.
Now, am not sure which leads to test on the solenoid.
Next to the battery cable is a wired snap connection.

There is also a thick short insulated cable between the solenoid and the starter. With a boot around the connecting end on the solenoid.
How do I post a picture here?

 

[tippytappy]

And I checked as many as the connections as I could see. Nothing looks different from previous.

 

[ning]

And I checked as many as the connections as I could see. Nothing looks different from previous.

Have you checked the voltage of the battery - preferably under load?

 

[tippytappy]

Here's the battery cable and the snap connection.


Here's the boot.


Not sure which one I need to check voltage on.
The battery cable to the solenoid has full voltage. So from the battery forward to this point, it's good. Things are getting very tight inside the engine compartment.

 

[tippytappy]

yes. the battery is fully charged.

 

[ning]

PTO isn't engaged (often an interlock keeping engine from starting if so)?

Check this thread too.

 

[tippytappy]

PTO isn't engaged (often an interlock keeping engine from starting if so)?

Check this thread too.

I do not believe the PTO is engaged. I have wiggled and jiggled and moved it every which way. I have unplugged and replugged connections.

Over the phone the dealership has no idea except the PTO interlock.

 

[diesel85]

I have a feeling it's a broken connector or switch.

Best thing to do, is check all the interlock switches with a DMM.

Set it to continuity, and press and depress each interlock switch. Note the change.

 

[tippytappy]

Yes, you are likely correct. I will get back with you after I return. Thanks for your help...
Everyone...thanks for your time...

 

[Professor Marvel]

seat switch??

 

[mikester]

Tested the battery both with load and no load. 12V. Tested the cable connection from battery at starter solenoid also 12V.
Now, am not sure which leads to test on the solenoid.
Next to the battery cable is a wired snap connection.

There is also a thick short insulated cable between the solenoid and the starter. With a boot around the connecting end on the solenoid.
How do I post a picture here?

How old is the battery? 12.0V is low for a new fully charged battery. If you dont have any interlock switches I.e. seat/gear/pto or a bad fuse or corroded/loose terminals I would suspect your battery is nearing the end

 

[tookielee]

Fuse?

 

[tippytappy]

Well, this is embarrassing. But, even though it is, it is required that I follow up with you all and report back.
Just returned yesterday - my daughter and son-in-law had pulled the BX24 out of the field and up to the yard. It was parked looking forlorn and still not starting.
Having recovered the basic owners manual (which isn't that helpful) from 3 states over, it made sense to check the fuses (thanks tookielee), but they were all good. I still don't know how to check the slow blo fuse, but...luckily...that wasn't it...

I read and re-read your advice about the PTO switch. Ning shared a thread from 2013. And I found a thread dating back to 2006. All pointing to the PTO.

And that was it. I had failed to really see that the PTO lever itself was NOT springing back to the very top of the slot. It was sticking/stuck against something with enough "stickiness" that even letting the lever "fly" back, was still sticking. It was a simple tug of the lever to seat it firmly and it fired right up!! Yikes.

Thanks everyone. Sincerely -- thanks, you all have saved me some bucks and frustrations. Even with the egg on my face, it's worth it. Please don't ever stop sharing your experience. Thanks again.

 

[Professor Marvel]

glad you figured it out
tractor not working sucks

 

[ccsial]

Well, this is embarrassing. But, even though it is, it is required that I follow up with you all and report back.
Just returned yesterday - my daughter and son-in-law had pulled the BX24 out of the field and up to the yard. It was parked looking forlorn and still not starting.
Having recovered the basic owners manual (which isn't that helpful) from 3 states over, it made sense to check the fuses (thanks tookielee), but they were all good. I still don't know how to check the slow blo fuse, but...luckily...that wasn't it...

I read and re-read your advice about the PTO switch. Ning shared a thread from 2013. And I found a thread dating back to 2006. All pointing to the PTO.

And that was it. I had failed to really see that the PTO lever itself was NOT springing back to the very top of the slot. It was sticking/stuck against something with enough "stickiness" that even letting the lever "fly" back, was still sticking. It was a simple tug of the lever to seat it firmly and it fired right up!! Yikes.

Thanks everyone. Sincerely -- thanks, you all have saved me some bucks and frustrations. Even with the egg on my face, it's worth it. Please don't ever stop sharing your experience. Thanks again.

Thanks for sharing yours Tippy. We all have those moments.