BX25 BH Hose Tool Suggestion

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Artisan

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Sup All! I am the proud new owner of a BX25. I have all of 4-5 hours on it and I see a hydraulic leak . The posistioning of the flare nuts on the BH control valve is so close together it is nuts. I went searching for the right tool, I think I found it but I seek re-assurance, tell me YES, that is what I need please, see below. OR please tell me what is a better tool!

Here is a couple of pictures of the work area with the arrows pointing at the leaker.

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They are all suspect now and I want to tighten them all up. It is insanely tight. I need to buy the right tool one time. Can anyone hands down tell me if THIS SET will do me or do I need to buy a dedicated Wrench, SNAP ON, Crowfoot, Flare Nut, 11/16", 12-Pointer . Snap On wants almost 32 bucks for one lil wrench, I found THIS set at sears for 80 bux.
 
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I recommend the 6 point....12 point will tend to slip and round the shoulders of flare nuts. I know its going to be tight,but if anyway possible,use the 6 point as its really no fun to replace either.
 
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Artisan said:
Thanx Radioman, but the BX25 has American size hose ends, specifically 11/16" where I am in issue, PLUS, I seriously doubt, I mean Majorly doubt 6 point will be of any use at all, 12 point will even be tough, BUT SOEM HOWEVER, I like that set!

Of many tool brands of wrenches, working on my Honda rider was quite challenging. in both metric and sae, I found open end wrenches by GearWrench to be a great choice. they have a "thinner" sizing to access easily and with less movement. At the same time, they handle like heavy duty product. they also have "wobbles" for sockets and adjusting angle open ends for offset work. better yet, you can find product at ACE or other hardware stores. they get in areas others won't and don't bend your wallet into a pretzel. just IMO
 
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Sup All! I am the proud new owner of a BX25. I have all of 4-5 hours on it and I see a hydraulic leak . The posistioning of the flare nuts on the BH control valve is so close together it is nuts. I went searching for the right tool, I think I found it but I seek re-assurance, tell me YES, that is what I need please, see below. OR please tell me what is a better tool!

Here is a couple of pictures of the work area with the arrows pointing at the leaker.

leak1sm.jpg


leak2sm.jpg


They are all suspect now and I want to tighten them all up. It is insanely tight. I need to buy the right tool one time. Can anyone hands down tell me if THIS SET will do me or do I need to buy a dedicated Wrench, SNAP ON, Crowfoot, Flare Nut, 11/16", 12-Pointer . Snap On wants almost 32 bucks for one lil wrench, I found THIS set at sears for 80 bux.

I used to work the refrigeration trade in my younger days. Flare nut wrenches mentioned elsewhere are the answer. They come in 6 point and 12 point. Use the 12. We used them on copper and brass and did not have a rounding problem. The length of the wrench is engineered to give you the approx right torque with one hand. Always use a back up end wrench on the other side or you may create another leak in the process. Space the two wrenches a couple inches apart and squeeze with one hand. If it doesn't tighten and stop the leak something else is wrong. Take it apart and inspect. Factories leave strange results sometimes. We worked in tighter place than you show and refrigerent leaks easier than Hyd fluid as it is a gas. I have 300 hrs on my BX25 and have not found a leak yet that I did not create by not getting the QC locked in right and you do not want to know all I have done some might call abuse. I am sure glad I kept those wrenches all these years, use then on all types of flared and compression nuts.

Ron
 
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How much room between the nut itself and the one next to it ?
 
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new unit

call the dealer and have him fix it!! warrantee service.
 
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How much room between the nut itself and the one next to it ?

"IF" there is enough room for a 12 point crowfoot 11/16" wrench I will be surprised. I ordered THIS SET for 28bux and praying they will work.
 
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new unit

call the dealer and have him fix it!! warrantee service.


Well, I guess I could go rent a trailer, load it up, drive it 35 miles, drop it off, come home, go back, load it up, (renting a trailer again and I forgot all the steps and time and money to rent) then get it home etc et all and the second I go to do it the phone will ring and I will miss a job...or fix it myself, end up being the wiser and have the tool(s) to do it down the road when I need to replace hoses! If it were an engine knock sure, but not for one leaky hose bro...

I have been plumbin' since I was 15 years old, now 53. I have built HUNDREDS of new buildings and maybe 100 or so remodels plus umpteenth repairs. I have hired many a hoe in my time and I have gone home many a time while the hoe(s) sit getting new hoses installed, having said that, I AM GETTING READY! HA! Heck, I saw a hose rubbing already! I think some PM wrapping on my hoses will happen soon! It is what it is, ain't gonna call out the marines for this, not yet anyways. If I can not find a tool to fit I may be forced ot reconsider. I think I will prevail though.

There are 2 kinds of people who own tractors, those whose tractors have broke and those whose tractors are going to break...Be Prepared...
 
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Make your own tool. Take a high quality 11/16" box end wrench. Dremel out a passage for the tubing. Heat and bend the wrench to conform to the angles you need. Tighten fitting. Put "custom" wrench up on bench labeled BX-25 flare nut.


Later
 
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Make your own tool. Take a high quality 11/16" box end wrench. Dremel out a passage for the tubing. Heat and bend the wrench to conform to the angles you need. Tighten fitting. Put "custom" wrench up on bench labeled BX-25 flare nut.


Later


would like to see a picture of the tool box you mounted on the back of the seat and your oil temp and pressure gauges set ups. My BX 25 arrives today as as trade up from my BX 2360 looking forward to it.
 
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As for securing the hose fittings, I would get a set of "AN" fitting wrenches. Available at various places they are colored, are made of alum and designed to secure hyd. hose fittings without damaging them or applying too much pressure.
 
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ok - I didnt mean metric only. Its either metric or standard like you mentioned, but you get the idea since its offset flare wrench. It gotta be handy for everything you do in the future. I would be extreme;ly careful tighten them up as you can mess up flare fitting, but as a plumber I guess you are already aware. I just wanted to mention it as I forgot to add it last night, but I guess its useless advice since you are a plumber.

I would say you are lucky your machine is new and clean so its easy to spot the problem. I already have many hours on mine and I haven't had a leak down there yet. Only leak I had was the boom ram that dribbled on boom when it was really hot. a quarter turn to tighten it up fixed it on only one fitting after 500 hours. Now that being said, I wouldnt tighten the rest just yet, just that one you see its leaking.
 
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Make your own tool. Take a high quality 11/16" box end wrench. Dremel out a passage for the tubing. Heat and bend the wrench to conform to the angles you need. Tighten fitting. Put "custom" wrench up on bench labeled BX-25 flare nut.


Later

The thought had crossed my mind, heating would make the steel week I think, unless I figured out hoe to put the strenght back in the steel...
 
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would like to see a picture of the tool box you mounted on the back of the seat and your oil temp and pressure gauges set ups. My BX 25 arrives today as as trade up from my BX 2360 looking forward to it.

I am definately gonna mount a toolbox...gauges would be great tool so I secnd the motion... Maybe do it in the BX Goodies thread? No matter...
 
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Now that being said, I wouldnt tighten the rest just yet, just that one you see its leaking.

And the idea is sound except when I first saw the oil mess, and I realized that it was probably 1 of 2 hoses, and not knowing for sure which one was leaking, yet, I put a wrench on the lower one where a tool would go on and IT WAS REALLY LOOSE! :mad: Then I pressurized he bucket / the hydralics and saw that actualy leak was the top one, not the bottom one which was loose! So that is why every single one of them are suspect. The bottom was not leaking but it was really loose. I mean it was bad. I am concerned. Sure, if I put a wrench on others I am not going to turn it if it is "Flare" tight already...

All of them were probably screwed on by the same underpaid, saki hungovered, disgruntled kuboto employee whom wrenched my tractor together on his day off, because he was forced to work that day because his brother was busted sleeping in the Transmission Department a day prior, on a Sunday kinda deal. He had a bad day! :cool:
 

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