Bx25 split breaks?

[Don87]

The brakes are on the right for safety reasons. You brake with your right foot when driving your car so the use of your right foot is automatic. Braking with your left foot requires a thought process and is not instinctive. The slight delay in hitting the brake in an emergency can be dangerous.

I wasn't going to reply directly to your post, but I've changed my mind. You sir are in a position were you can get the attention of Kubota. You know, the same thing actual users of the machine have been trying to do for years. Read the threads , you'll understand.

There WOULD be a Kubota in my drive right now, if they would have had the 'left foot brake'!!! I was bleeding orange for 20 friggin years.......................til I sat on one. That 'chin knockin' right foot brake.......................with no control over the movement of the tractor, on my hillside, turned me off real quick.

I personally invite you and your Bota, to come visit. I'm buyin the beer and the food......................

 

[Don87]

I could go farther, but I won't. Just waiting to see if the 'nonsensical' 'safety' statement is retracted'

 

[ericher69]

Enough with the "my color" is better than yours!

Kubota screwed up putting the brakes on the same side as the go peddle plain and simple!

Proud b2920 owner

 

[Don87]

Enough with the "my color" is better than yours!Kubota screwed up putting the brakes on the same side as the go peddle plain and simple!

Proud b2920 owner

Read thoroughly before you speak!

 

[Don87]

Enough with the "my color" is better than yours!

Kubota screwed up putting the brakes on the same side as the go peddle plain and simple!

Proud b2920 owner

YEP

One of my previous posts explains it 'thoroughly'.

 

[vtsnowedin]

I have to agree that having a break pedal ,split or not, on the same side as the GO pedal on a HST tractor makes no sense at all. On my gear tractor the split breaks are on the right and the clutch is on the left with a hand throttle that stays where you put it. (Cruse control in a way)This is the traditional set up and is a great aid when plowing with a two wheel drive tractor. When you go to steer out of the furrow the front tire trigs on the rolled over sod from the last pass or the unplowed edge on the dead furrow side if your turning left. This can leave you trapped in your rut for quite a way down the furrow before the front tire catches on something and climbs up and out. But just step one of the split breaks and turn the wheel to that side and you will come right up out.
I remember back in the sixties a neighbor I grew up with showing off a new to them JD B with a narrow front end. He was cowboying it and stomping on the split breaks and spinnig the tractor in half circles with the locked wheel not moving at all and the outside wheel shooting out chunks of sod with each put- put-put of the two banger. Years later this same guy managed to kill himself by flopping a tractor trying to pull out a stuck pickup with a high hitch Never had much sense or any caution.
The designers of HST tractors have a problem in that tractors only have two sides and most operators have no more then two feet. One side or the other is going to get crowded no matter what they do. Construction and paving rollers have a hand lever for the HST and they seem to work well enough but you would need to learn to use a left hand joystick for the loader if it was on the right side. No real good answer comes to mind.

 

[megaboz]

Well I loved my kubota and i love my JD, but truth be known, if I could have bread them to get a Kub-Deere I sure would've. They both have positive and negative points.

Kubota isn't the only company that has the brakes on the right, and as for using cruise, my property doesn't allow for that option. I bought a hydrostatic both times for that reason.

 

[BXpanded]

I understand completely. I was using your post..............to respond to post number 5.

Would love to see him operate a dozer, skidder, or knuckle-boom loader............................or for that matter....................maybe we can give him a few hours on a JD backhoe, then hand him a Case.

The point being is that an automobile is not the same as a piece of equipment, and in my opinion........................if one doesn't have the capability to differentiate, maybe they shouldn't operate either one.

It was once argued to me on here, that the brake wasn't necessary on the hydro......................................On level ground it ain't, but try hooking to a 3 pt. implement in my yard once........and you will be glad to have the left foot brake.:thumbsup:

And you will 'cuss' the "Kubota Shuffle"!!!

I'm terribly sorry if I offended anyone. I simply presented the logic of the brake on the right. I did not say it was good, nor did I say I preferred that placement.
BTW, In an earlier part of my life I operated heavy equipment as a profession. I've spent thousands of hours on dozers, loaders and Case and John Deere backhoes.

 

[ericher69]

Read thoroughly before you speak!

So whats the problem??

I did read carefully and you are all over the map!

I see you have a Massey; good machine

Bled Kubota orange till I sat on one? So you never owned one or you did and jumped ship?

We are saying the same thing! The bx being a SCUT does not need split brakes as I never use them on my b

 

[k0ua]

Hmm.. interesting observations. I will add mine.. having swapped off a Kubota L recently for a clutch-less Kioti DK35seHST, I feel I am uniquely qualified to compare them.. The L3400HST had split brakes on the right along with a single treadle pedal. My DK35se HST has a two pedal hydro setup and split brakes on the left and no clutch. Now on the Kubota I seldom used the brakes at all, as I did not "road" the tractor much. When I did use the brakes to hold position on a hill they seemed convenient to use on the right. As for splitting them to use when pushing snow for example I used the cruise control for forward pedal control, and used my right foot for split braking.. I just never could master the hydro pedal and split brake at the same time thing, and the "kubota shuffle" thing of trying to get your left foot over the transmission hump over there to activate a split brake while you right foot is on the treadle pedal just seemed like a cluster to me. Now with my Kioti, the split brakes are on the left, and of course are a joy to use and I have totally acclimated to the two pedal system and the left brakes. I did not think I would like either control at first and now it seems totally intuitive. Bottom line I got along fine with my Kubota, and am getting along fine with the Kioti.

James K0UA

 

[Carl Bert]

Each individual make and model may need it's own thread, but I can tell you that the set up on the Kubota B26 MAKES NO SENSE at all. If you have never driven one, please don't try and tell me different. In my travels, I have been to many Kubota dealers, and I always try to remember to ask the salesman the same question. I say "can you please tell me how to use the split break system on a 2010 B26?" Most of them just put their hands up, turn their heads, and say " I honestly have no idea".

I like Kubota, and have yet to need to use the split braking system, but please don't try and tell me things like, "you need to use both feet on the right side", or "you need to use the break and hydo pedal with the same foot" that's just plain silly. I have a size 13 foot and I cant do it. The split brake on the B26 is as useless a system as I have ever seen. You can make up as many reasons as you want, to explain how it can be utilized, but it can't. I honestly don't care how many tractors you have owned or how much experience you have, this system on the B26 DOES NOT WORK.

 

[TripleR]

I'm adding split brakes to my increasing list of topics to avoid.

 

[milkman]

I'm adding split brakes to my increasing list of topics to avoid.

Another good one to avoid is the ones about those dangerous side by side hydro pedals.

 

[case245]

i use mine daily plowing discing grading roads ditchs

 

[RobertN]

Discussion in the past was that it was left over from gear gear tractors, and cheaper to have one brake setup across both gear and HST tractors. Until recently, even most HST tractors have had clutches... So you have HST pedal, clutch pedal, and brakes. Where do you put them all...

What is the purpose of having split breaks on the same side as the go pedal? It sure isn't safe to have both legs on one side.

As for the bx's, that brake is considered and called a parking break in the owners manual.

 

[Notforhire]

Discussion in the past was that it was left over from gear gear tractors, and cheaper to have one brake setup across both gear and HST tractors.

I think you have hit the nail on the head.:thumbsup:
I used to own a NH TC40D myself. It had split brakes on the left and the hydro on the right. There is no clutch pedal. The system worked fine. If I remember correctly NH also made hydro tractors with brakes and hydro both on the right side and nothing on the left. IMHO that was just a bad design. Maybe they did save money by using the brake setup for a gear tractor on the hydro.???

Bill