Cab question.....

Jc8 · Dec 31, 2015

Hello,

I just bought my first tractor ck27h with cab....625 hours.
It's a little beat up cab wise and I'm just wondering if anyone has had luck getting it to quiet down.
I think the cab was put on by inexperienced dealer when it was new and previous owner didn't care....but man it seems louder in than out!
Also no real high on fan so windows are fogging up...actually I don't think there's much heat coming from vents.

Is the front/rear suppose to be plastic or glass?
It was a good deal and tractor seems solid just cab is very afterthought looking.

Anyways...great sight and I've been reading lots and lots of friendly people here.
J

Deerherd · Dec 31, 2015

Is it a factory cab? Not sure if the CK had a factory cab Can you post some pictures?

Jc8 · Jan 1, 2016

Yes Kioti cab.... I don't think these are factory installed but dealer installed.
Will get a few pics today.

PILOON · Jan 1, 2016

Glue or otherwise attach some cheap carpeting to the inside of the cab roof.
That will kill a whole lot of noise as much is either echo and also perhaps drumming caused by vibration of the larger flat roof area.
For fans I like 12 volt computer 'muffin fans' as they are compact and draw little current, trick is mounting them.

Looking4new · Jan 1, 2016

Jc8, the cab is most likely a 'Kioti cab' mounted by the dealer. I know my cab was mounted by the dealer. He told me so.
Have you turned the blend valve to the heat position?
Yes they are loud!
All the clear stuff is glass.
Be very careful of the bolts that hold the glass in the doors, they have a tendency to come loose. Trouble is that you cannot tighten them up too much or you will explode the glass. A candidate for red loctite if I ever saw one.
You have your location as North Bay, ON. You and me have the same tractor and we are in the same 'neck of the woods'.
Care to disclose your location? I'm just outside of South River.

Jc8 · Jan 1, 2016

First time posting pics so I hope it works!

Seems like there's a gap everywhere!
I think the echoing might be a large part as well.
The carpet idea should work great.

I think the unit I bought had a rough life, the front and back windows are plexi glass.( did a good job so I thought it was factory!) The front and back I thought that might be from factory until above post.

I knew the left door was broken when I bought it and the owner made a plexi glass wood panel that didn't open.

I got a good deal on it and everything seems cosmetic.

tman1020 · Jan 9, 2016

I did quite a bit of soundproofing on my cab. My tractor is pretty much the same as yours with the bobcat brand on it but my cab is made by cozy cab. I have a soundproof liner in the ceiling that helps tremendously it was a factory standard feature. I also added half inch thick by about 1 inch wide weatherstripping everywhere I could. One of the largest helps that I did was spraying sound deadening undercoating under all the fenders and under the seat area. I also purchased some sound deadening flexible denim panels from Menards. I put about six or seven of them throughout the tractor screwed one to the back of the seat couple more along the sides of the seat and so on. I also added memory foam that I took from an old pillow and stuff that in all the small openings. I tried using some of the soundproofing rubber adhesive panels didn't notice much of an improvement from them. It is still louder than I expected inside but it's not bad. I remove my doors in the summertime and sound is no longer an issue.

rimshot · Jan 14, 2016

I have a dealer installed cab on my ck 2510. Noisy? Yes they are a bit nosy and probably noisier than no cab at all for the driver but I am very proud of the installation by Michigan Iron of Morrice, Mi.. Thkey did a very meticulous installation and the cab is tight as a drum. I have blown snow in all types of weather and the two speed heater fan keeps the inside of the glass very clear.

rimshot

Looking4new · Jan 14, 2016

rimshot said:
I have a dealer installed cab on my ck 2510. Noisy? Yes they are a bit nosy and probably noisier than no cab at all for the driver but I am very proud of the installation by Michigan Iron of Morrice, Mi.. Thkey did a very meticulous installation and the cab is tight as a drum. I have blown snow in all types of weather and the two speed heater fan keeps the inside of the glass very clear.

rimshot

AND we are toasty in it. I blow snow in a T-shirt in mine.

Retired guy · Jan 16, 2016

My 2012 ck 35 came with a factory installed cab. I have half inch foam insulation under the floor mats, quilted vinyl covering
over the fenders inside and gray foam insulation on most of what would be exposed metal surfaces. Almost everything that would echo except the glass is covered in sound deadening/absorbing material. I listen to the radio on what I would consider a normal volume although the ears are 70 years old [huh].

Gary Fowler · Jan 16, 2016

I have no issue with high noise levels in the cab on my LS, it seems to have plenty of noise deadening material in the roof and tight seals on the doors.
Even on the Kubota B26 with 4 post canopy there doesn't seem to be any "ringing noise" like others have reported. It does have a piece of low density foam glued to the top which I think is more for heat insulation than noise. The foam is deteriorating after 6 years and I will have to replace it someday but for right now, as long as I don't touch it, it doesn't shed on me.

For your "factory" cab, I would look at sealing up the door seams, foaming under the bottom might also help. You should had insulation in the ceiling already, if not glue in some foam. I think most of your noise is coming from gaps between doors and other areas that need to be sealed.
Plexiglas is not the best material for windows due to ease of scratching and crazing which makes it hard to see thru. It looks like your cab has seen lots of abuse if the front, rear and main side door glass have been replaced with Plexiglas. For the cost of replacing all those with glass, you could likely buy a new cab.

Jc8 · Jan 16, 2016

I would not have thought that sealing up the doors would make a big difference....will definitely try that as so many of you have suggested it.

With that mentioned I think the door getting replaced and the front glass for now will make a big difference.( have those on order now)

Driving today I did notice there was some fumes coming in that I could smell....not a lot but it was noticeable...anybody have that problem.

As far as a new cab.....Canadian dollar is going down so that idea of buying a whole new cab would be like 8k!!!

tman1020 · Jan 16, 2016

Sometimes I notice it a little but normally I think it's if I had the door open in the fumes came in. I just cut a piece of scrap carpet for the floor tonight thinking it might help make it even more quiet. I'll report back results.

tman1020 · Jan 16, 2016

Sometimes I notice it a little but normally I think it's if I had the door open in the fumes came in. I just cut a piece of scrap carpet for the floor tonight thinking it might help make it even more quiet. I'll report back results.

Looking4new · Jan 16, 2016

8 G's is what I paid for my cab in 2012.

Jc8 · Jan 17, 2016

That 8g was just off the dealers head...probably more once he sat down....the door is 650~ to replace

There's not enough wrong with the cab to buy it all new....I will slowly replace it and get sorted out with all the great advice from here

Jc8 · Jan 17, 2016

Is there a piece to cover the center between your feet...as in you don't see the wires and other bits?

Industrial Toys · Jan 17, 2016

There was a time, maybe I'm guessing five or so years ago when I saw some really nasty insulation work on a Kioti cab at a farm show. It was just double sided foam stuck into openings. I could not believe that was factory or even dealer provided. I think they corrected this quite quickly, but maybe you got one of those. Maybe the sticky got unstuck and blew away.