cabelas is discontinuing tractor sales

[jibe717]

You can buy every brand name product that EA sells (Their "free shipping within 1000 miles" is included in their pricing) for LESS money, ELSEWHERE!
Also: Their "free shipping" is only to your nearest trucking distribution point. (in my case a 170 mile round trip).
You should do some on line price shopping for implements!

That 6o" King Kutter finish mower that they want $1967 for sells for $1499 at my local Fleet store. LOL

 

[Jim Timber]

That 6o" King Kutter finish mower that they want $1967 for sells for $1499 at my local Fleet store. LOL

Gotta get the freight out of it somehow...

 

[GManBart]

No insult whatsoever. I clearly said "Nothing wrong with that at all".

Yeah, like saying "Nothing wrong with that" and then saying to take their advice "with a grain of salt" isn't fairly condescending.

In not so many words, you're saying that backyard warriors aren't as qualified to make suggestions as you are, or you wouldn't be recommending that others take their comments with a grain of salt.

If I'm buying a compact tractor for a little 10 acre spread, I might like to hear what someone else in that situation has experienced, just as much as some guy with 1,000 acres and four tractors that are all over 100hp. There are plenty of big Ag guys who probably haven't been on a modern 40hp CUT ever based upon their comments here.

 

[daugen]

You can buy every brand name product that EA sells

Did I say EA was the cheapest price? No. I said they were worth checking out for variety and the fact they make their own implements. I drove five hours across NC to buy their heavy duty rake and rear blade because I got not only US made, but NC made.

If your needs require or your budget only allows the lowest level of build quality, you buy at TSC and Agri Supply and you wind up with a rear rake that can get bent like a pretzel. Like the TSC/CountyLine rake I found in my woods bent to bits by the prior owner's likely too large tractor. I have found that ETA tries to improve upon other designs, like KingCutter, so pays to compare build quality and features and not just cost. I mostly buy Land Pride implements but I tried ETA and was very satisfied.
But if you are pricing a 72 inch Caroni mower and you know what you want, you bet, shop the best price delivered. Not to worry Fried, I comparison shop everything carefully and then buy on quality and service based on what I can afford. Implements built to the strength of EA's "extreme duty" line are usually going to be more expensive elsewhere, not less.


people pushing paper or keyboarding their income
Wouldn't you want your insurance agent to be a very good "paper pusher"? How about your CPA?
or the graphics designer doing your businesses website.
You make a good point but no sense denigrating others who work hard doing what they do best. And without which everything modern today would grind to a halt without that "paper". Or the bar code reader. But yeah, we can't eat the paper yet so we'd better remember how to grow things and fix things.

I owned a retail electronics business for five years. Right at the cusp when small electronics went under a hundred bucks and nothing was worth fixing. You threw it all away, tvs, vcr's, laser disc players, endless electronic junk into the landfill. And I think when we got to the point where it was clear throwing things out made more sense than fixing them, well financially that made sense. But philosophically, no. We have become a disposable society that has only recently gotten serious at least about recycling. And if we throw everything out, how will we ever have the skills to fix them?

 

[TomSeller]

Yeah, like saying "Nothing wrong with that" and then saying to take their advice "with a grain of salt" isn't fairly condescending.

In not so many words, you're saying that backyard warriors aren't as qualified to make suggestions as you are, or you wouldn't be recommending that others take their comments with a grain of salt.

If I'm buying a compact tractor for a little 10 acre spread, I might like to hear what someone else in that situation has experienced, just as much as some guy with 1,000 acres and four tractors that are all over 100hp. There are plenty of big Ag guys who probably haven't been on a modern 40hp CUT ever based upon their comments here.

The question was asked why people on TBN bash Deere. In my opinion the average member on this site knows very little about the average Deere product which is NOT a scut or cut, it is AG equipment. To your own admission members here tend to be compact owners so taking their opinion on Deere AG tractors and equipment should be taken with a grain of salt, in my opinion. I think you are not reading my response in context with the question.

 

[murphy1244]

Who asked about AG tractors?

 

[TomSeller]

Threads go from one subject another, just about every one of them. No one asks for the majority of what gets written, it is all free opinions.

 

[AxleHub]

I'm a little confused by this concept of John Deere bashing.

Bashing would be defined as non supported negative statements. But accurate descriptions are both justified and appropriate.

1. So if a similarly equipped jd is 4,000 more than a kubota or Massey or yanmar scut of same size . . Then that is a 20% or 25% change and that is a big number. If the 4000 difference is on an ag tractor . . Then its a very small difference..

2. Another potential variable is attitude. While I was looking last year I stopped into a jd dealer to see a used kubota they had. What a nice sales person. Showed me a new jd and the used kubota etc. Then I stopped into another jd dealer and he was cocky and uninformed. Stopped into a 3rd jd dealership and I got another cocky salesperson.

My point is . . I don't know when I read negatives about jd if they are bashing or accurate. . . But I do know that a very good dealer I know was forced out of selling JD after a 30 year relationship selling lots of jd product. And he wasn't short on sales . . He just didn't want to double his entire business investment to serve their needs (and to repeat . . he always sold a lot of product). And I know my own experiences. So if someone asked me about JD . . Would my opinion be "bashing" or would it be "accurate" ?

 

[jenkinsph]

I'm a little confused by this concept of John Deere bashing.

Bashing would be defined as non supported negative statements. But accurate descriptions are both justified and appropriate.

1. So if a similarly equipped jd is 4,000 more than a kubota or Massey or yanmar scut of same size . . Then that is a 20% or 25% change and that is a big number. If the 4000 difference is on an ag tractor . . Then its a very small difference..

2. Another potential variable is attitude. While I was looking last year I stopped into a jd dealer to see a used kubota they had. What a nice sales person. Showed me a new jd and the used kubota etc. Then I stopped into another jd dealer and he was cocky and uninformed. Stopped into a 3rd jd dealership and I got another cocky salesperson.

My point is . . I don't know when I read negatives about jd if they are bashing or accurate. . . But I do know that a very good dealer I know was forced out of selling JD after a 30 year relationship selling lots of jd product. And he wasn't short on sales . . He just didn't want to double his entire business investment to serve their needs (and to repeat . . he always sold a lot of product). And I know my own experiences. So if someone asked me about JD . . Would my opinion be "bashing" or would it be "accurate" ?

Above you mention a $4000 upcharge for a Deere over a Massey Ferguson. Using your GC1715 and a comparable 1025R I don't see it.
The MF GC1715 is less at $12,165.00 msrp.
The Deere 1026R is more at 13,36100 msrp.
That is a difference of $1,196.00 and while the Deere is about $1200 higher than the Massey Ferguson it is not $4000 higher. So are you bashing Deere by your own definition or not?

My prices are from tractordata.com both for the year 2013.

 

[AxleHub]

Above you mention a $4000 upcharge for a Deere over a Massey Ferguson. Using your GC1715 and a comparable 1025R I don't see it.
The MF GC1715 is less at $12,165.00 msrp.
The Deere 1026R is more at 13,36100 msrp.
That is a difference of $1,196.00 and while the Deere is about $1200 higher than the Massey Ferguson it is not $4000 higher. So are you bashing Deere by your own definition or not?

My prices are from tractordata.com both for the year 2013.

I was merely creating an example from posts I've seen where there was a kubota and jd each with backhoes and mmm being compared. My example was demonstrating a price variatoon in a category makes for percentage changes that can be much different in a different category.

What I do know is the 1st jd dealer gave me a price including fel and mmm and unit that was more than 14% different and that didn't include the deluxe seat.