Canadians not welcome at JD - USA

   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA
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For your interest!
Following is Copied from
JD Business Conduct Guidelines Chapter 7 available on their website

"Company policy requires fair competition and strict adherence to all laws regarding competition and trade practices
in the United States and in other countries in which Deere does business. All employees and agents of the
Company are prohibited from engaging in, authorizing or condoning activities contrary to this policy.

The concept of fair competition is a fundamental element of the free-enterprise system. Buyers must be able to select
from a variety of products at competitive prices, and there can be no restraints such as price-fixing, illegal monopolies,
cartels, boycotts or unlawful tie-ins. We are committed to the following guidelines:
Employees must avoid arrangements with competitors, dealers, suppliers and customers
that unlawfully restrict competition.
No agreements affecting prices, terms upon which products are sold or the number and
type of products manufactured or sold may be made with competitors.
The Company supports and intends to abide by laws that prohibit unfair practices,
abuses of economic power or restraints of trade.
Each Company employee or agent involved in the application of trade practices or
antitrust laws should consult with the Deere & Company Law Department, particularly
if there is any question that the conduct being considered or about to be taken may have
possible anti-competition or antitrust implications.
The laws concerning Trade Practices/Fair Competition matters are complex. For additional information regarding laws
and regulations governing these subjects in the United States and other locations, consult reference materials located on
the Deere & Company Law Department web site."
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #42  
I think the OP was correct in posting this info - represents a change in the buying market - no different than the posts of the latest finance rates or other things that affect purchases.

If there was a 7% "American tax" imposed by Canadian dealers the "whining" would be alot louder than the Canadians on here have been. Everyone from their barber to their AG to the state Congressman would hear about it.
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #43  
Scooby074 said:
I think the OP was correct in posting this info - represents a change in the buying market - no different than the posts of the latest finance rates or other things that affect purchases.

If there was a 7% "American tax" imposed by Canadian dealers the "whining" would be alot louder than the Canadians on here have been. Everyone from their barber to their AG to the state Congressman would hear about it.

Were there a lot of American's buying tractors in Canada and bringing them back to the US? I know I never liked having to do the paperwork to bring anything back across the border. I ordered a load of fencing from a factory in Canada and hired a trucker to haul it and do the paperwork because he knew what he was doing. At the time the only place to find that fenceing was in Canada, since then I can buy it from West Virginia now so I have hauled a couple loads back from WV instead of going to Canada as it is so much easier not to worry about the added paperwork and headaches.
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #44  
Robert_in_NY said:
Were there a lot of American's buying tractors in Canada and bringing them back to the US? I know I never liked having to do the paperwork to bring anything back across the border. I ordered a load of fencing from a factory in Canada and hired a trucker to haul it and do the paperwork because he knew what he was doing. At the time the only place to find that fenceing was in Canada, since then I can buy it from West Virginia now so I have hauled a couple loads back from WV instead of going to Canada as it is so much easier not to worry about the added paperwork and headaches.

That's my point, you were free to buy the product in Canada if you wanted to, without a dealer imposed penality for being American, and this is the way it should be!
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #45  
Scooby074 said:
That's my point, you were free to buy the product in Canada if you wanted to, without a dealer imposed penality for being American, and this is the way it should be!

There is a slight difference though as I bought from the factory as there were no dealers locally for the fencing I needed. If I had local dealers then there would have been no need to buy in Canada. Now that I have a dealer I buy from them.

But were there really that many American's buying tractors in Canada?
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #46  
Robert_in_NY said:
But were there really that many American's buying tractors in Canada?

Honestly, I don't know the exact #'s of sales to American's when the US dollar was much stronger, however it would be reasonable to assume that there probably was a fair number of sales made in bordering states, if the US price after exchange was higher then the Canadian price. Most everybody wants to save a buck.

But, that really isn't the issue here, it could have been only one sale made, the issue is the fact that a tax is being levied, soley for being a Canadian shopper.
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #47  
Scooby074 said:
Honestly, I don't know the exact #'s of sales to American's when the US dollar was much stronger, however it would be reasonable to assume that there probably was a fair number of sales made in bordering states, if the US price after exchange was higher then the Canadian price. Most everybody wants to save a buck.

But, that really isn't the issue here, it could have been only one sale made, the issue is the fact that a tax is being levied, soley for being a Canadian shopper.

But if there wasn't very many American's buying north of the border why would Deere have to worry about this? It seems it is only a problem now because there are more Canadian's coming south to buy tractors.

As Cindy said, things in Canada cost more money so even when the US dollar was strong why would anyone go thru the hassle of buying in Canada and dealing with customs to bring it back? To me this seems to be a new issue Deere is faced with and maybe there is a lot of pressure from their Canadian dealers to address this.
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA
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Scooby074 said:
Honestly, I don't know the exact #'s of sales to American's when the US dollar was much stronger, however it would be reasonable to assume that there probably was a fair number of sales made in bordering states, if the US price after exchange was higher then the Canadian price. Most everybody wants to save a buck.

But, that really isn't the issue here, it could have been only one sale made, the issue is the fact that a tax is being levied, soley for being a Canadian shopper.

Not to slpit hair but just to be clear it is not a 7% "tax" we are talking about it is a 7% "surcharge" collected by JD corporate for sales to Canadians by US dealers. What JD will do with the surcharge is not clear. Maybe thay will give it to a chairty fund for the down and out JD dealers in Canada that go backrupt as a result of this bad business policy:) Or maybe thay will use it for a bonus to the excutives that came up with the policy :rolleyes:
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #49  
ScottK said:
I'm curious about importing stuff to Canada. If you buy a tractor here in the US, can you just drive it across the border and not get hit with taxes? What about the other direction? I'm pretty sure US Customs taxes anything over $800 for US residents. I was just wondering is such tax would wipe out any savings.

How about getting a US PO Box so they don't know where you live?

Scott

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I just don't think th US PO Box would work these days.............I'm thinking you need a valid photo ID and maybe even a passport now days.

So far as the dollar U.S. vs. the Canadian Dollar, it's been the other way around for so long it seems only fair the Canadians have earned some of the positive benefits just like U.S. citizens enjoyed when it was the other way around. By the same token, the switcharoo in currency valuations isn't all bad for the U.S. economy.

If I were a JD dealer in a U.S. side, I would recruit some U.S. citizens to buy these tractors and drive them across for the Canadian buyers provided it is legal. I know the Canadian buyer would have to pay the tax but the real purpose is to get around the stoopid Deere thing. On second thought, maybe if I were a Canadian I would say to heck with Deere and buy a Kioti like I did.

Best of luck to our friends from the North.

rimshot
 
   / Canadians not welcome at JD - USA #50  
Robert just a few years ago, 7-10 years that is, you couldn't find good used tractors in Canada anywhere near the border. The US buyers were using the 0.55 exchange rate and cleaning house! They were buying new as well but not as much because Canadian dealers prices were/are jacked up quite high.
 

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