Case 590 Turbo LOADED Advice

[Martian]

Hi, all been looking at backhoes and I think I have just found something really special. Found a 590 Turbo with 4 in 1 bucket, extend-a-hoe, cab w/ heat, 2 stick controls, in great condition that was owned by a farmer in great condition. This thing has every option that I have seen. From what I know the 590 has 98HP and is the 580K's big brother. Really looks like a great tractor and will definitely be jumping on it if it all checks out. The only problem is it looks like one of the back tires has a flat, was wondering how much they could be to repair. Also What people thought of the 590's.

Thanks for the help all!

 

[jenkinsph]

My thought is you need to try out the machine with all the tires aired up. If you are ready to buy the machine assuming it checks out let the seller know. Then see what the seller is willing to do about the tire. Most of these can have a tube installed without breaking the bank or loosing a sale (hint), I would be reasonable about it too, if he can air it up enough for you to test drive then you may go ahead with the sale and buy a new tire or tube, check with your tire store for the cost of this.

Oh and it was good to hear that the farmer was in "good condition" too.

 

[Martian]

Haha. Love typos!

The tires are in good condition besides the one so I will definitely see what e can do about it. Contacted him last night so I hope we can get something done!

 

[High Compression]

What series is the 590? Super L maybe or Super M. Just curious. Your right though, the 590 is the 580's big brother and it is a powerhouse. Especially on the hoe. Every backhoe contractor always wanted the 590, but couldn't either afford it or wasn't able to haul it. I think a 4wd tips the scales close to 18,000 lbs. Your not pullin that with your pick up and gooseneck.:laughing: Try it out, see how the hydraulics feel. The pins, the transmission etc. Taken care of you should be able to get 10,000 hrs out of her.

 

[Bigfoot62]

As already pointed out, the 590 is a beast of a machine and accordingly heavy. Unless you have a 24K gooseneck, you can forget about moving it yourself. If the machine will be living on your farm, that may not be a problem, unless it needs to go in for repairs. The weight is also a factor in where the machine will work. It's just easier to get a heavy machine stuck.

 

[Martian]

What series is the 590? Super L maybe or Super M. Just curious. Your right though, the 590 is the 580's big brother and it is a powerhouse. Especially on the hoe. Every backhoe contractor always wanted the 590, but couldn't either afford it or wasn't able to haul it. I think a 4wd tips the scales close to 18,000 lbs. Your not pullin that with your pick up and gooseneck.:laughing: Try it out, see how the hydraulics feel. The pins, the transmission etc. Taken care of you should be able to get 10,000 hrs out of her.

That's what I thought, and it is just the 590, the first model. I E-Mailed the dealer to try and get something set up but so far has not responded. Think I could haul her too - just have to rent a trailer as I have GMC 4500 that is supposed to haul 24000. It only has about 4000 hours on it too so it should have half a life.

As already pointed out, the 590 is a beast of a machine and accordingly heavy. Unless you have a 24K gooseneck, you can forget about moving it yourself. If the machine will be living on your farm, that may not be a problem, unless it needs to go in for repairs. The weight is also a factor in where the machine will work. It's just easier to get a heavy machine stuck.

I do have a 4500 that could haul it, I would just need a trailer. Won't travel more than twice a year at most though.

Tires look pretty rough and on is flat would anyone have any idea how much they could be to replace?:thumbsup:

 

[jenkinsph]

Hope you don't have to haul it far, that is a load for a 4500 too. I use a Ford 550 to move my stuff and it is all light compared to a full size backhoe.

About the tires, not much point in asking us is there? Call your local tire store and ask them.

That is a good sized backhoe and if it has the features and setup you want then you may want to have a good mechanic look at it for you.

I am currently considering a 580K a friend of mine has to sell but transporting these around town can be a problem.

 

[whodat526]

i hauled a 580 super m with 4wd 4 and 1 bucket cab with my 2008 chevy 2500 with a daul tadem gooseneck and went about 100 miles round trip with it then i hauled a 580 b and a ford 2000 to oklahoma on the same truck and trailer it all depends on how u load the backhoe and get the weight balanced i had no problems pulling both loads but the trailer has new 14ply tires and 12k alxes but a 4500 would pull that backhoe any where

 

[jenkinsph]

i hauled a 580 super m with 4wd 4 and 1 bucket cab with my 2008 chevy 2500 with a daul tadem gooseneck and went about 100 miles round trip with it then i hauled a 580 b and a ford 2000 to oklahoma on the same truck and trailer it all depends on how u load the backhoe and get the weight balanced i had no problems pulling both loads but the trailer has new 14ply tires and 12k alxes but a 4500 would pull that backhoe any where

Being a native of New Orleans I am familiar with what you can get away with on flat land. Heck I pulled a Deere 450 dozer on a dual wheel bumper pull trailer behind an F100 p/u. I was younger and dumber then too.

Living in the mountains now with steep grades being older and hopefully wiser I don't take unnecessary chances with my life and others lives.

Little things can be a big problem if not thought through such as electric brakes, how do you get out af the vehicle when by yourself and chock the trailer tires on a steep slope?

Better to have a larger truck and rig with air brakes on the truck and trailer.

 

[whodat526]

i dont know if you been on hwy 96 in texas and 59 and hwy 171 in louisiana they or none flat but what i was trying to say a 4500 should handle this backhoe with no problem

 

[High Compression]

i hauled a 580 super m with 4wd 4 and 1 bucket cab with my 2008 chevy 2500 with a daul tadem gooseneck and went about 100 miles round trip with it then i hauled a 580 b and a ford 2000 to oklahoma on the same truck and trailer it all depends on how u load the backhoe and get the weight balanced i had no problems pulling both loads but the trailer has new 14ply tires and 12k alxes but a 4500 would pull that backhoe any where

As I pointed out before. There is at least 4000 lbs difference between a 580 and a 590. I wouldn't move either, regularly with anything less than a class 6 truck with air brakes on truck and trailer. I have been hauling equipment for 15 years, starting out with F-Superdutys (the 92-97 F-450) with powerstrokes and five speeds every day Mon-Fri on goosenecks with electric brakes. Now I want to slap everyone I see, hauling anything more than a skid loader with that sort of set up. I just hope DOT get's them. It is unsafe, most of the time illegal, and most if not all of those drivers are inexperienced with hauling more than 10,000 lbs.

The 2500-5500 trucks or 250-550 if you like, do not have enough weight or stopping power to control a load over 10,000 lbs. in an emergency situation. I don't want my family driving down the highway next to a guy that is pulling a piece of equipment and trailer that weighs twice as much as his 2500 pick-up that he's pulling it with. When a tire blows and you loose what little control you thought you had at 70mph, it is game over for you and the vehicles around you. I've watched as the wrecker picks up the backhoe from the other side of the concrete divider wall on the highway that it and part of the trailer ended up in on coming traffic as the gooseneck ripped the back half of the 2500 completely off the truck. The bad thing is, that the driver and passenger of the 2500 survived, but the family van that was hit, did not have any survivors.

 

[whodat526]

i have hauled a many backhoes on my setup and also hauled a jd 544a wheel loader on my dual tandem and a 2004 dodge 1ton

 

[jenkinsph]

That's what I thought, and it is just the 590, the first model. I E-Mailed the dealer to try and get something set up but so far has not responded. Think I could haul her too - just have to rent a trailer as I have GMC 4500 that is supposed to haul 24000. It only has about 4000 hours on it too so it should have half a life.




I do have a 4500 that could haul it, I would just need a trailer. Won't travel more than twice a year at most though.

Tires look pretty rough and on is flat would anyone have any idea how much they could be to replace?:thumbsup:

Curious what you plan to use it for? Do you need this for your property or were you planning on hiring out? Sorry if I have asked this before.
I would take it you need it for private use if you are only moving it a couple of times per year. I would think it would be cheaper to hire these occasional moves too.

At any rate you can do a lot of work with a backhoe this size in a weeks time. Hope you have something for it to do.

 

[Martian]

Curious what you plan to use it for? Do you need this for your property or were you planning on hiring out? Sorry if I have asked this before.
I would take it you need it for private use if you are only moving it a couple of times per year. I would think it would be cheaper to hire these occasional moves too.

At any rate you can do a lot of work with a backhoe this size in a weeks time. Hope you have something for it to do.

I just bought 12 acres on the water up north and was planning on clearing and leveling the land (there's like a 12 ft drop to the water) and then I'd bring it back home to plow the driveway at my house in the winter (my drive is close to 500 yards to my house and another couple back to my barn. But I will be doing most of the work at my cabin.

 

[High Compression]

i have hauled a many backhoes on my setup and also hauled a jd 544a wheel loader on my dual tandem and a 2004 dodge 1ton

Just because you can or you have, doesn't make it right.

 

[jenkinsph]

I just bought 12 acres on the water up north and was planning on clearing and leveling the land (there's like a 12 ft drop to the water) and then I'd bring it back home to plow the driveway at my house in the winter (my drive is close to 500 yards to my house and another couple back to my barn. But I will be doing most of the work at my cabin.

While the 590 in good condition is capable of lots of brute force work I suspect it would be a good idea to keep the tractor too. If it were me I would get the backhoe up and runniing best I could and then have it moved to the new property to do the heavy work. I would keep the lighter tractor with implements to do the clean up and detail work, this would be easier to transport.

 

[Martian]

While the 590 in good condition is capable of lots of brute force work I suspect it would be a good idea to keep the tractor too. If it were me I would get the backhoe up and runniing best I could and then have it moved to the new property to do the heavy work. I would keep the lighter tractor with implements to do the clean up and detail work, this would be easier to transport.

Yea. Would definitely love to do that. Plus the reliability of my tractor with 140 hours on it but it's the difference of $2000 and $20000 and I don't know I want to spend that much. I want to do the big work and have someone else do the touch up grading and such.

 

[jenkinsph]

Something to consider and probably the cheapest overall cost is to buy the larger backhoe to do the big jobs then sell it in a year or two. Fix the backhoe up cosmetically and have it in good shape and you should be able to sell it for what you paid for it or close anyway. That way you can do your own cleanup work with the smaller tractor which you will have a constant need for. Guarantee you that if you sell the tractor, buy the backhoe then buy another tractor you will loose bigtime. Just my opinion but good luck in sorting it all out.

 

[whodat526]

Just because you can or you have, doesn't make it right.

but it doesn't make it wrong either

 

[5030]

I move hoes, dozers and articulated loaders all the time for the company but I use a Class 8 Western Star (with a Cat under the hood) and a Talbert Detachable tri axle lowboy.

It's always good to size the haul vehicle to the load.

I'd dread trying to stop (in an emergency situation) any electric braked gooseneck with even 14,000 pounds on the deck no matter how many axles.