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Does any one know anything about Challlenger series tractors by Cat. I was told that they are made in France with Cat motors.
 
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Does any one know anything about Challlenger series tractors by Cat. I was told that they are made in France with Cat motors.
 
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Yes, they are rebadged Massey Fergusons.
John
 
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Yes, they are rebadged Massey Fergusons.
John
 
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Yes, I believe that some of the larger Challengers are built in France with Cat (Perkins) engines...just like the Massey Fergusons.
To my knowledge, the smaller MT200-series compact tractors are built in Japan by Iseki, just like the Massey Ferguson compacts.
 
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Yes, I believe that some of the larger Challengers are built in France with Cat (Perkins) engines...just like the Massey Fergusons.
To my knowledge, the smaller MT200-series compact tractors are built in Japan by Iseki, just like the Massey Ferguson compacts.
 
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Challenger, AGCO and Massey tractors are all the same whether they are made in France, Brazil or Japan. There are some slight differences in the smaller tractor, but not a lot. In the larger sizes, there are different engines and slightly different transmissions.
 
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Challenger, AGCO and Massey tractors are all the same whether they are made in France, Brazil or Japan. There are some slight differences in the smaller tractor, but not a lot. In the larger sizes, there are different engines and slightly different transmissions.
 
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Yes, they all are part under AGCO (ALLIS GLEANER COMPANY) which owns the above mentioned companies. Many other companies fall under this large corporation such as Heston and Fendt.
 
   / Challenger by CAT #10  
Yes, they all are part under AGCO (ALLIS GLEANER COMPANY) which owns the above mentioned companies. Many other companies fall under this large corporation such as Heston and Fendt.
 
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How do they stack up compared to the big three??
 
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How do they stack up compared to the big three??
 
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Massey Ferguson is one of the largest Ag companies in the world. They are one of the big three in Ag equipment. They have never marketed compact tractors the way that they should have. The Challenger is the same tractors and Cat wouldn't be selling them if they weren't up to there level.
 
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Massey Ferguson is one of the largest Ag companies in the world. They are one of the big three in Ag equipment. They have never marketed compact tractors the way that they should have. The Challenger is the same tractors and Cat wouldn't be selling them if they weren't up to there level.
 
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SC,

You can find out more about the Challenger Line here: http://www.challenger-ag.com Cat liscenses the brand to Agco and utilizes the Cat dealer for their distribution network.

Like the others have stated the compact series (MT200B) is the same as the Massey line with Iseki motors.

Rich
 
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SC,

You can find out more about the Challenger Line here: http://www.challenger-ag.com Cat liscenses the brand to Agco and utilizes the Cat dealer for their distribution network.

Like the others have stated the compact series (MT200B) is the same as the Massey line with Iseki motors.

Rich
 
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They are every bit as good as the so called big three.

Iseki makes the compact tractors in Japan (to AGCO specifications) and have been for a very long time. They are a huge company.

Agco is the top selling tractor maker in the world and in the top three in total equipment sales along with Case New Holland and John Deere. Kubota has no where near the amount of volume of equipment that AGCO sells.

Go check them out (wether you look at the Massey, AGCO or Challenger models). They are just as refined and ergonomicaly put together as any tractor (big three included). In fact I think many of their models are tops in their class.


I really do not understand the BIG 3 concept. Leaving a company out like AGCO is pointless. It would be like saying Ford or Chevy or Toyota could not build a compact 2 seat car, even though they are huge producers of cars.
 
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They are every bit as good as the so called big three.

Iseki makes the compact tractors in Japan (to AGCO specifications) and have been for a very long time. They are a huge company.

Agco is the top selling tractor maker in the world and in the top three in total equipment sales along with Case New Holland and John Deere. Kubota has no where near the amount of volume of equipment that AGCO sells.

Go check them out (wether you look at the Massey, AGCO or Challenger models). They are just as refined and ergonomicaly put together as any tractor (big three included). In fact I think many of their models are tops in their class.


I really do not understand the BIG 3 concept. Leaving a company out like AGCO is pointless. It would be like saying Ford or Chevy or Toyota could not build a compact 2 seat car, even though they are huge producers of cars.
 
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"Kubota has no where near the amount of volume of equipment that Agco sells"

It sounds like you have not been to California lately.
Chuck M.
 
   / Challenger by CAT #20  
"Kubota has no where near the amount of volume of equipment that Agco sells"

It sounds like you have not been to California lately.
Chuck M.
 

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