Close to starting my Workshop

[fbson395]

Hi, I will be going with 1 1/2 "and the pulls will be about 150 ft.or more. Plan on one pull thru the attic and then a junction box, another pull out to the shop about 60 to 80 ft.The shop will be 30'x40'and 12 ' walls with a 5/12 roof pitch. I would like to have done more but just too much for me. I will keep all informed as to my progress.
Thanks

 

[vwnotrunning]

For the little increase in cost - larger conduit in the ground sure makes it easier to pull though. More important if you have little to no experience in pulling wire. PS be sure get someone to help feed it in while you pull!!!

 

[fbson395]

WOW, The work has started. The concrete was poured last week and the building started today. See Pictures! They showed up about 0830 and had a crew of six plus the owner. Also his two young boys. They plan on finishing up tomorrow? The plan is for my son and me to finish putting in the windows and doors and the siding, then paint.I have the 1 1/2 " conduit in the ground but it took me 3 days to dig under the 4' wide sidewalk. Finely got that part done. The inspector said I could run romex in the attic and use a water tight junction box at each end of the house. My part of this project will go MUCH MUCH slower.

 

[two_bit_score]

Looks like it progressing well. I'm looking forward to following the progress.

 

[wrooster]

I have the 1 1/2 " conduit in the ground but it took me 3 days to dig under the 4' wide sidewalk. Finely got that part done.

Do you still have the trench open?

Drop a second (and perhaps a third?) run of PVC electrical conduit in the trench for "later/other" use. For example, an additional 1" conduit allows you to pull several CAT5 twisted pair and RG6 coax cables, so you can have 1) Internet access from your shop, 2) a wired alarm system loop, 3) a security camera, 4) phone line, 5) intercom, and so on.

Glued-up conduit is cheap; trenching is expensive, time-consuming, and messy.

You may also want to run a length of 1" 200psi black poly (PE pipe), which would (in the future) allow you to have running water at the shop.

Edited: Per NEC you may not run power and data cabling in the same conduit unless the data cables have insulation rated for the voltage carried on the power cabling. This is not the case with the vast majority of CAT5/CAT6 twisted pair, nor for single- or quad-shield RG6 CATV coax. For this reason, generally the best approach is to run power (=high voltage wiring) and data (=low voltage wiring) in separate conduits.

Wrooster

 

[Grayson Klassen]

What a beautiful view you have, I hope your shop will have windows.

 

[fbson395]

Today they finished the roof sheeting and we called for a inspection for tomorrow. Friday they will bring up the shingles and Tuesday it will be roofed.
Thanks for tips on extra lines in the ground. I added a water line but I can always quickly hand dig a shallow hole in the soft ground for the phone and other stuff. In fact I back filled and then remembered I forgot the water line. This getting old sucks! So I hand dug the water line, so why not do it again? Maybe this time I will get it right.:laughing: Having trouble getting the #2 wire the inspector wants. Says it has to have a "W" in it for wet applications. The store in town has THHN but he will not allow that. I will check this out tomorrow.

 

[NHmitch]

Do you mean your man cave

 

[wrooster]

Having trouble getting the #2 wire the inspector wants. Says it has to have a "W" in it for wet applications. The store in town has THHN but he will not allow that. I will check this out tomorrow.

Buried conduit is a "wet location" per the NEC, and therefore any wire pulled through it has to be rated for wet locations. In general this means THWN insulation (THWN = Thermoplastic Heat and Water Resistant Nylon).

Note that most, but not all, of the wire you find on spools at the big-box stores is dual-labeled as "THHN/THWN" or "THHN/THWN2". This dual-labeled wire is suitable for pulling in underground conduit. However, wire only labeled "THHN" is not.

Wrooster

 

[fbson395]

Wrooster, Yes, on the wire. I made call today and found that most of the wire that is carried is rated for both. THHN and THWN. One wholesale house was up to speep and set me on the right track. Thanks for the information.I ordered a 500 ft roll #2 for $625 I need 450 ft and this is cheaper that paying by the ft. The wire will be in on Tuesday, the same day the roof is going on.Next week the work on the electrical starts. Also have to order the siding doors and windows and insulation. I will keep posting photos.