clutch problems

[bcinlittleaxe]

hey guys. I am hoping one of you old pros can give me some info, now I am pretty good at auto mechanics and based on my knowledge there I guessing my clutch just went out, I went to use my 4500 today and I cannot get it to go in gear, when I try to put it in it just grinds and wont go, I had no problem when I parked it the other day, everything was normal, if it is the clutch anyone got an idea of the repair cost

 

[RKrodle]

Sounds more like your clutch is stuck and not disengaging.

 

[bcinlittleaxe]

possible, what would cause that and would you how I might fix it if that's the problem

 

[burzynsr]

My 4025 did it once and I was able to get it free. I put it in 4-high, set the parking brake, I had already put the loader bucket down at a hard angle to hold the tractor, fired it up and it tried lurched forward, the engine stalled, pushed in the clutch and all was right again. I am not supposed to tell you I disabled some start safety interlock switches to do this. The cause probably is the clutch sticking to the flywheel due to moisture. Lots, if not all new clutches are made of new material with a certain amount of metal (tiny particles) made into them, they basically rust and stick to the flywheel (no more asbestos that really works good). Just block the clutch pedal down when parking and you won't have the problem. It probably says that in the owners manual (mine does). I did not pay attention to it, until it happened to me.

 

[Navasot]

easy way is to force it into high 1st then get moving throttle up a bit hold down the clutch and pop the brake.... should pop it loose... it happens in high humidity when moisture builds up on the clutch pad and pressure plate... sticks them together sometimes to the point of needing to split the tractor to fix.. with it being a 4500 that older tractor can get clutch ware on the pad.. and moisture can hold in those divots... let it sit long enough and it rust both plates together

 

[Navasot]

and it is the problem... just idle down put it in high and force it into 1st gear... if its a shuttle.. put it in high first than push the shuttle into forward

 

[oldpilgrim]

my 3016hst has a 'clutch' pedal. is it the same type as in a geared unit or it it just some way to divert or stop hydraulic fluid flow?

l ask because there's a wire on the pedal designed to be able to be hooked to hold the pedal down.

 

[Navasot]

Yes but your pto is still engaged with the foot clutch on the HST model...

 

[Navasot]

were the shuttles have electric engage..

 

[oldpilgrim]

Yes but your pto is still engaged with the foot clutch on the HST model...

sorry, but , yes...what?

 

[Navasot]

The that can also stick just like the foot clutch if the pto lever is left engaged for some reason... as far as the clutch is mainly focused on the gear

 

[bcinlittleaxe]

thanks for the info guys, I'll give that a try today or tomorrow as soon as it quits raining, i'll let you know what happens

 

[bcinlittleaxe]

thanks for the info guys, I'll give that a try today or tomorrow as soon as it quits raining, i'll let you know what happens

Hey guys I tried what you said and started it in gear and that seemed to fix the problem.
Thanks for the advice, I would have never thought about that sticking

 

[Navasot]

:thumbsup:

 

[flusher]

Hey guys I tried what you said and started it in gear and that seemed to fix the problem.
Thanks for the advice, I would have never thought about that sticking

Just remember to block the clutch when parking your tractor. Always did this with my 2008 Mahindra 5525.

Good luck

 

[cowsmowmygrass]

Experiencing same clutch problem with 2006 6500 4WD. About to go try some of these tricks for unsticking the clutch. I first thought of towing it with truck to start it, but I like the starter method better. Fortunately, I thought of the risk before recruiting my son to come help. Thought, hmmmm, when it starts in high gear, and clutch is still stuck, how will I stop the beast before it climbs in the cab of the truck?
Sure glad I read your ideas before attempting. BRB

 

[cowsmowmygrass]

hhmmmm, I don't know how to disable safety interlock switch and don't want to. So, my 1st attempt didn't do it. Now, going back out to try H1 clutch in, while mashing brakes.
I wonder, am I more likely to pop clutch loose in 2x or 4x drive?
BRB

 

[cowsmowmygrass]

YAY! Clutch was stuck and now it is not!!!
I started and idled low. Put it in L1. Rolled a ways and tried putting into H1. That jolt, along with other things I had done, unstuck the clutch, Big Red came to a stop, and all seems normal.

 

[cowsmowmygrass]

Attached the disk harrow and began disking a field. Didn't get far, Oil light came on at idle. Temp gauge rose to near red. I headed for the water hose. Tried to put some in reservoir, but is was full. the radiator and hoses were cool to the touch.
Stuck Thermostat? Any other probabilities?

 

[dickfoster]

Attached the disk harrow and began disking a field. Didn't get far, Oil light came on at idle. Temp gauge rose to near red. I headed for the water hose. Tried to put some in reservoir, but is was full. the radiator and hoses were cool to the touch.
Stuck Thermostat? Any other probabilities?

Oh dear, I hope you didn't trash your engine running it with no or low oil in the crankcase. Sound's like something went awry. What does the dipstick show? Maybe you lost some engine oil somewhere along the line. Still the coolant should have heated up too.