Creating a Lake

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I have the cedar logs to do it, but I'm just not sure that's the look I'm wanting. Of course, I was thinking of using round cedar logs like the posts. What is making me not want to go that route is how I want the ceiling to look and where I want the attention to be. I will have three exposed beams that will be part of the structure, so there will be some interest in that when it's all done. I haven't committed to either design just yet, but in my sketches, I like the dimensional lumber plan the best. I sometimes change directions and modify a plan once I get to that point and realize that option B or even C is the best one.

Eddie

Might give the lady of the place a 51% say:laughing: Cant you use both concepts?

OH check your PM's
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,162  
I have the cedar logs to do it, but I'm just not sure that's the look I'm wanting. Of course, I was thinking of using round cedar logs like the posts. What is making me not want to go that route is how I want the ceiling to look and where I want the attention to be. I will have three exposed beams that will be part of the structure, so there will be some interest in that when it's all done. I haven't committed to either design just yet, but in my sketches, I like the dimensional lumber plan the best. I sometimes change directions and modify a plan once I get to that point and realize that option B or even C is the best one.

Eddie

Might give the lady of the place a 51% say:laughing: Cant you use both concepts?

OH check your PM's
 
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#2,163  
She has more then 51 percent say in the design of this, but she's like me in being unsure about using cedar logs for the beams. There is a fine line from rustic to too rustic. We want redneck without being too REDNECK. There are also other features that will be done in the roof that have me leaning towards building the trusses out of dimensional lumber. Right now, I'd say we're 70 percent decided on going that route.

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,164  
Dimensional would sure be easier. Can you use the rough logs and route a channel in the tops to incorporate the D lumber? I probably don't understand since I am not a "builder":laughing: If you went all DL, you could rip some cedar and put it on the header for a "tad" of rustic?
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,165  
She has more then 51 percent say in the design of this, but she's like me in being unsure about using cedar logs for the beams. There is a fine line from rustic to too rustic. We want redneck without being too REDNECK. There are also other features that will be done in the roof that have me leaning towards building the trusses out of dimensional lumber. Right now, I'd say we're 70 percent decided on going that route.

Eddie

Eddie,
You can always cover the dimensional lumber, if it is not redneck enough. Something like what Dennis stated in the post above this one.
hugs, Brandi
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,167  
I don't think that rough beams will make it look redneck - it will give it more of a "lodge" look. But, as someone else said - dimensional will be easier.
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,168  
WOW!

Took me 2 weeks to read every post with side trips to other threads from members and yours. JarHead from 79 to 99, helped to invent the internet and been online since we had to dial a phone then set the headset onto a cradle and listen to the beeps.

I've read a ton of threads on a ton of subjects, been a member of a few BBS's that turned into forums. Almost all have turned into distant families. I have to consider you a brother after this saga. I can't even remotely express the admiration and envy I have for what you have done.

Iv'e purchased 300 acres in middle Tennessee and plan a small lake much like yours. Thanks you for teaching me how to do it!

I do have leeway to travel and hope you won't mind some hillbilly company on August 9th, as long as the party will be over before the 23 for the Bristol night race I can make it. ****, I may just take August off, drag my DK40 down. I got what you need, a 3PH 9ft sickle bar mower, perfect for cutting banks and beats the heck out of a weedeater.
 
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Breadtrk,

Thank you for the nice compliment. Glad you enjoyed reading the thread!!!

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,171  
Eddie, Are you going to have electricity to the gazebo? It would be a big plus to have lights and outside fans hanging down from the ceiling not only for your wedding but future party uses.

Just thinking ahead on this project. :thumbsup:
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,172  
Eddie, Are you going to have electricity to the gazebo? It would be a big plus to have lights and outside fans hanging down from the ceiling not only for your wedding but future party uses.

Just thinking ahead on this project. :thumbsup:

Weird you asked that, I logged on to ask him the same thing:laughing: Guess I'll go back to "surf'n":D
 
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#2,173  
I started a thread about going solar for some accent lighting and got a lot of good ideas.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/307299-help-low-voltage-lighing-ideas.html

Running power down to the gazebo isn't practical right now. I'm clearing trees and moving dirt in that area and will be for some time into the future. I would like to have it lit up at night, and think that a solar cell charging a 12 volt battery with a timer on some low voltage lights might work. I also want the battery to power a 12 volt pump that will pull water out of the pond and water the flowers that I plan on planting around the gazebo.

My current thinking is a LED rope light around the eves and some LED spotlights on the beams and the cupola. The timer on the lights will probably be the same one I have on my deer feeder and the lights will remain on for about two hours after dark. Then the pump will turn on and run for a few minutes or whatever it takes to water the plants. This seems like the simplest way to keep from discharging the battery too much. I'm also looking into going with two 6 volt golf cart batteries.

The wedding is at 10AM, so lighting isn't a concern. I have a small Honda generator for power during the ceremony, though I'm not sure why we'll need it. Then it will be moved over to where the party will be at, but again, I'm not sure why. After it gets dark I'll probably run a string of lights for those who last all day and camp out. There seems to be some interest in that, so we'll see.

One of the things we want to offer for those sticking around for the party after the wedding is a zip line. Karen and I enjoyed it a lot on our last cruise when we stopped in Roatan Honduras. While the pond is still low, I put in two 20ft treated poles at the edge of the water. My next step will be to run the cable from a big oak tree 50 feet behind the poles and then over the deep end of the pond. The actual run of the zip line will be 400 feet and I'm going to buy a 500 ft roll of 3/8 galvanized cable.

I wont know where to mount the end of the cable until I get it run and see how it looks. The same applies to the platform on the poles. Once I see where the cable height is at the poles, I'll know where to build the platform. The platform will have stairs that go up to it to make it easy to get up there and feel safe. Then it will extend 8 feet out over the pond. This is also for safety. The trolley will be a handle style that you can attach a seat to. If you fall off or can't hold on, the fall will be into the pond.

One thing that we haven't been able to figure out is how to get the trolley back to the platform after going down it. Probably have to have a light rope or heavy string attached to it and then just pull it back by hand, but that might be an issue keeping it from getting tangled. I also thought about a fishing real type set up. If I used a heavy test line and a surf type reel, that might work. Any other, better ideas? The trolley that I'm looking at is bolted together over the cable, so unhooking it and carrying it back isn't a good option. Maybe I'll find another style of trolley?

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Eddie
 
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#2,174  
I started a thread about going solar for some accent lighting and got a lot of good ideas.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/307299-help-low-voltage-lighing-ideas.html

Running power down to the gazebo isn't practical right now. I'm clearing trees and moving dirt in that area and will be for some time into the future. I would like to have it lit up at night, and think that a solar cell charging a 12 volt battery with a timer on some low voltage lights might work. I also want the battery to power a 12 volt pump that will pull water out of the pond and water the flowers that I plan on planting around the gazebo.

My current thinking is a LED rope light around the eves and some LED spotlights on the beams and the cupola. The timer on the lights will probably be the same one I have on my deer feeder and the lights will remain on for about two hours after dark. Then the pump will turn on and run for a few minutes or whatever it takes to water the plants. This seems like the simplest way to keep from discharging the battery too much. I'm also looking into going with two 6 volt golf cart batteries.

The wedding is at 10AM, so lighting isn't a concern. I have a small Honda generator for power during the ceremony, though I'm not sure why we'll need it. Then it will be moved over to where the party will be at, but again, I'm not sure why. After it gets dark I'll probably run a string of lights for those who last all day and camp out. There seems to be some interest in that, so we'll see.

One of the things we want to offer for those sticking around for the party after the wedding is a zip line. Karen and I enjoyed it a lot on our last cruise when we stopped in Roatan Honduras. While the pond is still low, I put in two 20ft treated poles at the edge of the water. My next step will be to run the cable from a big oak tree 50 feet behind the poles and then over the deep end of the pond. The actual run of the zip line will be 400 feet and I'm going to buy a 500 ft roll of 3/8 galvanized cable.

I wont know where to mount the end of the cable until I get it run and see how it looks. The same applies to the platform on the poles. Once I see where the cable height is at the poles, I'll know where to build the platform. The platform will have stairs that go up to it to make it easy to get up there and feel safe. Then it will extend 8 feet out over the pond. This is also for safety. The trolley will be a handle style that you can attach a seat to. If you fall off or can't hold on, the fall will be into the pond.

One thing that we haven't been able to figure out is how to get the trolley back to the platform after going down it. Probably have to have a light rope or heavy string attached to it and then just pull it back by hand, but that might be an issue keeping it from getting tangled. I also thought about a fishing real type set up. If I used a heavy test line and a surf type reel, that might work. Any other, better ideas? The trolley that I'm looking at is bolted together over the cable, so unhooking it and carrying it back isn't a good option. Maybe I'll find another style of trolley?

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Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,175  
Eddie,
A friend of mine currently has the longest zip line in the US on his land in Bethel Maine. You will have to add back anchor guide lines to secure those post for forward load. On the opposite end you should set up a counter weight to keep the line loaded. You can buy a quick attach truck to put on your line and carry it back. Don't forget to calculate in the weight of the cable for your loads.
Solar power Christmas lights work great for accent lighting. Self contained and cheap and no batteries needed.
For water put up that windmill. dual purpose air for the lake and water pump to do your plants.
 
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I hope I don't have to add a line to anchor the tree side of the line. It's right at my property line and I'd have to cross the creek and go onto my neighbors land. I'm sure it wont be a problem, but crossing the creek scares me. It's where I see the water moccasins all time.

Eddie
 
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#2,177  
I hope I don't have to add a line to anchor the tree side of the line. It's right at my property line and I'd have to cross the creek and go onto my neighbors land. I'm sure it wont be a problem, but crossing the creek scares me. It's where I see the water moccasins all time.

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,178  
Run a clothesline off to the side of the zipline? The zipline doesn't have to be permanently attached to it, just when it is at the low end you clip it to the clothesline and start the clothesline moving in the right direction. It should take the zipline back across as long as you have a clip that is secure enough that it doesn't come unhooked in the middle of the lake. Maybe if you want to get fancy you could even add a little electric motor to spin the clothesline pulley and take the thing back. At least that way you don't have to worry about the line getting tangled, or slowing down (or even strangling) the the zip liner.
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,179  
but crossing the creek scares me.
It's where I see the water moccasins all time.
If the snakes are in the Creek they are or will
be in Your Lake ...One good thing is that
Pigs eat snakes so Oscar to the recue
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,180  
I came up with what I think is a pretty cool idea for returning a zipline.

A small piece of string/cable would attach the zipline trolley to a winch drum type setup (you could use a small wood spool), attached with pulleys/belts to another spool with another cable. This cable would have a steel weight on the end, and be able to fall all the way to the ground from the top.

What would happen is as you went down the zipline, it would raise the weight (with a ratio appropriate to the distance). As soon as you let go, the zipline would return to the top.
 

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