Cub Rumor???

[Superclyde007]

Hard---- Your knowledge of the Cub Cadet /Yanmar joint venture is impressive. The reference you make that Cub asked Yanmar to build a tractor for them is interesting. Where did you get that information?

Walmart, Menards, Sam's, Sears and any other mega retailer with any market share would like to have Cub Cadet. Why? Because it sells.
Why do you think John Deere bent over for Lowes last year to get in their stores? Because Lowe's and the entry level residential Cub Cadet units they sold had blown Home Depot and John Deere out of the water in sales and market share. Lowes did this with about 700 or so fewer stores. Deere couldn't stand it so they cut Lowe's a deal. Lowe's was blinded by the shine of the green paint and I think that Lowe's has learned, as alot of other people are learning that the shine of green and yellow paint "ain't what it once was" because I don't think Lowe's saw any growth and may actually have seen a decrease in sales last year. The only difference is that John Deere is a master in the marketing game and have been very successful at promoting their brand.
I have owned Deere and just about every other major manufactures equipment in the past. There are pro's and con's to all of them.
You had issues with a couple of Cub Cadets. I am sure that everything Cub builds is not junk as you seem to think. If it were they would not have been able to survive and keep the brand alive and growing since 1981, longer than IH could keep it solvent by the way.

 

[Fordlords]

Link:
- Yanmar

This is a new joint venture between Cub Cadet and Yanmar Corp. It is not merely Yanmar building tractors or supplying engines to Cub Cadet.
-Fordlords-

 

[ducati996]

Link:
- Yanmar

This is a new joint venture between Cub Cadet and Yanmar Corp. It is not merely Yanmar building tractors or supplying engines to Cub Cadet.
-Fordlords-

It all depends on whose design they build it off of - for example Deeres Yanmar built machines are of better look, feel and function than Yanmar themselves - designed and and built by.

They havent really specified what area they will focus on - or is it the entire sub-cut, Cut and ultility line? Mitsu & Kioti replacements?

I remember a similiar announcement when they offered CAT engines but we know CAT offers thr engines. Heck - Kubtoa used to supply gas and diesel engines back in the 80"s - that was even when MTD owned them

 

[rback33]

I'll be honest here that I don't read that often in the Cub forum and that I think SOME of the chewing that hard is taking might be justified. He may or may not have sour grapes, but the truth still is that if you call Tech Support for a Cub Cadet.... the phones ring to a place called MTD PRODUCTS. Parts for them come from MTD Products... I can rattle off the Shelby, OH address from memory where the 8000 Series loader parts go to. You can bust the nomenclature all you want, but it IS a Cub Cadet by MTD. We all know the REAL Cub company is no longer. Now, they(MTD) still make quality Cub products that are heads and tails above their other lines, but I don't think they are what they used to be.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

But isn't the 90 and 2000 series from John Deere made by Yanmar or at least the major parts are made by Yanmar? If so then shouldn't Hard refer to his new tractor as John Deere by Yanmar since Yanmar built them?

Hard has been pushing Cub Cadet owners buttons for a while on here. You buy a new tractor and he makes a comment about how the happy new owner should run to the nearest Cub dealer and beg for his friendship as obivously he is going to have lots of problems with his new Cub Cadet like Hard did. Hard has been banging on his little drum for a while now and has done a great job of giving Cub Cadet owners a headache when they come on here to enjoy themselves and help other Cub owners.

 

[CCinCT]

Hard has been pushing Cub Cadet owners buttons for a while on here.

Some owners, perhaps. But I think he greatly overvalues his opinion, and is under the false impression that most Cub owners care what he says about Cub. His brand-bashing, both direct and implied, says far more about his character than Cub Cadet. He's like a little kid that didn't get picked up by a little league team, so he goes to play soccer instead... and then starts bitching about how much baseball sucks anyway.

 

[DmansPadge]

I'm not a Cub owner but it still gets on my nerves. Talk about beating a dead horse.... every single one of his posts are the same old thing.

 

[ducati996]

But isn't the 90 and 2000 series from John Deere made by Yanmar or at least the major parts are made by Yanmar? If so then shouldn't Hard refer to his new tractor as John Deere by Yanmar since Yanmar built them?

More models than that too ! they made all the 2210, 4010, 4100, 4110, 4115
2320 and my new 2520. I should call mine a Yanmar actually - stamped right on it!

I have a green machine as well as a white and yellow machine. I would buy either one again in a heart beat. Oh yes i forgot I had problems with both. I deal with it, fix it and move on....adult like I suppose

 

[Superclyde007]

If all of you that bash Cub Cadet by MTD like your Fords, Dodges, GM's, Honda's,Nissan's etc... and many other worldwide recognized brands from other industries, then ad the by MTD to them as well because they supply lots of parts to these manufactures.
IH is gone forever. It is dead. Move on.

Ultimately the consumer decides what is built and what it sells for. MTD has owned the Cub Cadet name for going on 26 years of the 46 years it has been around. Would I like to see them change some things, absolutely. Would I like to see Deere, New Holland, Massey, Kubota, Ford, GM etc... change some things, absolutely.

Would I buy a Cub Cadet, Deere, Kubota etc... absolutely. If it fits what I need to do I buy the best value for the dollar and match the machine to the job.

Negativity breeds negativity. Say your piece, get over it and move on.

 

[rback33]

I see your points, but they are still not the same thing. Cub is part of MTD Products. Yanmar is an OE supplier in partnership with John Deere. Two completely different arrangements. I have seen many of Hard's posts in other forums, but his thoughts and opinions must be sifted through just like everyone elses. I am sure I annoy my fair share of people and they probably think I am clueless... But they can ignore me or choose not to read my posts if they desire. I liked the playground analogy... no one forces anyone to listen to the whiney kid on the sideline.... I tune my 4 y/o out when she starts to whine all the time... IF the turmoil is on purpose, then you are really feeding the fire by replying like this. I sure didn't want this to turn into a name calling, finger pointing thread. There is plenty of that in other threads. In real life I am forever poking fun at people on topics that I know I can a rise out of someone on. I do this to me friends and they do it back. Alls fair in love and war.