firemanpat2910
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Asymtave said:
now that would be a sight to see!!!!!
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now that would be a sight to see!!!!!
wotalota
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If you can get a low pressure water hose to the area. There is a motion detector - water spray device that is intended to spook them. It worked for me keeping them off the vegetable garden. web search for scarecrow brings up a number of places selling them, around $80.
RalphVa
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I put circular fences around practically everything in my yard and orchard, like Farwell does. Mine are only about 4' high.
Liquid Fence is a spray-on product that works pretty well. Many master gardener friends use it.
I also bought a 410 shot gun. Did in 7 of the hooved rats last year with slugs and 17 rabbits with bird shot. I did many circuits near dusk and got most of the hooved rats that way. They got to where they were virtually thumbing their noses at me. They'd be eating plums from my plum tree out front (can't protect them once they're fruit bearing size) while I mowed grass behind the house. If I knocked any down too close to the house, those got drug down below for the buzzards. Hitched them behind the tractor or scooped them up in the FEL, depending on where they lay. Use the 3" slug loads. Haven't had much luck lately with the 2 1/2" slug loads or have lost my knack in being able to hit them (no rear sights on a 410).
I've a kill permit. Can get it from any game warden. You can kill anything anytime without antlers. Almost never see any with antlers. Kept seeing 3, 2 females and a faun. They'd alude me on foot, but I knocked down the 2 females from my tractors and got the faun down near my garden the next day. They just stop and look at the tractor. Good bait.
Ralph
Liquid Fence is a spray-on product that works pretty well. Many master gardener friends use it.
I also bought a 410 shot gun. Did in 7 of the hooved rats last year with slugs and 17 rabbits with bird shot. I did many circuits near dusk and got most of the hooved rats that way. They got to where they were virtually thumbing their noses at me. They'd be eating plums from my plum tree out front (can't protect them once they're fruit bearing size) while I mowed grass behind the house. If I knocked any down too close to the house, those got drug down below for the buzzards. Hitched them behind the tractor or scooped them up in the FEL, depending on where they lay. Use the 3" slug loads. Haven't had much luck lately with the 2 1/2" slug loads or have lost my knack in being able to hit them (no rear sights on a 410).
I've a kill permit. Can get it from any game warden. You can kill anything anytime without antlers. Almost never see any with antlers. Kept seeing 3, 2 females and a faun. They'd alude me on foot, but I knocked down the 2 females from my tractors and got the faun down near my garden the next day. They just stop and look at the tractor. Good bait.
Ralph
patrick_g
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Put a fence around the trees. The minimum is 3 posts with fence on them. You want the fence far enough from the trees so the deer can't get their mouth on the tree BUT not so far from the tree that the deer have room to jump the fence and make a safe landing. The fence needs to be high enough and close enough to the trees to discourage jumping.
Deer can jump high or wide but not both at the same time. They will not jump a tall fence into a restricted small area. I have had success with electric fence for deer too.
If the fence goes up vertically and then has a sufficient horizontal component at the top, the deer can't jump it (violates the high AND wide jump concept) especially if there is a small landing zone. If you put up the anti-deer fence with the horizontal component at the top be sure to flag the fence with strips of white cloth or similar so the deer can see what it is they would be jumping. Otherwise they might try and get hung up. That is not good for you or the deer.
IR motion detector type security lights with electronic ultrasonic sirens in place of some of the light bulbs works pretty good. You need a powerful ultrasonic sound source and some tweeters good for outdoors. When Bambi comes gamboling along the IR motion detector turns on the ultrasonic siren and that startles and annoys Bambi as well as hurts her ears. It is NOT dog or cat friendly and outside pets will NOT LIKE IT. It may annoy bats too. You won't hear it but Bambi and her woodland pals, Messrs Raccoon, Skunk, Armadillo, Possum, et al will not hang around either. Ultrasonic sound comes out of a speaker like a flashlight beam and doesn't spread around very much so you need to aim it where the IR is looking (hopefully at your trees.)
I have successfully employed these ultrasonic systems and have kept most mammals and many birds away from the protected area. Some of the ultrasonic systems have selectable patterns, some of which are more pet friendly. The most effective is a warbling yelper siren pattern similar to those annoying emergency sirens but ultrasonic.
Pat
Deer can jump high or wide but not both at the same time. They will not jump a tall fence into a restricted small area. I have had success with electric fence for deer too.
If the fence goes up vertically and then has a sufficient horizontal component at the top, the deer can't jump it (violates the high AND wide jump concept) especially if there is a small landing zone. If you put up the anti-deer fence with the horizontal component at the top be sure to flag the fence with strips of white cloth or similar so the deer can see what it is they would be jumping. Otherwise they might try and get hung up. That is not good for you or the deer.
IR motion detector type security lights with electronic ultrasonic sirens in place of some of the light bulbs works pretty good. You need a powerful ultrasonic sound source and some tweeters good for outdoors. When Bambi comes gamboling along the IR motion detector turns on the ultrasonic siren and that startles and annoys Bambi as well as hurts her ears. It is NOT dog or cat friendly and outside pets will NOT LIKE IT. It may annoy bats too. You won't hear it but Bambi and her woodland pals, Messrs Raccoon, Skunk, Armadillo, Possum, et al will not hang around either. Ultrasonic sound comes out of a speaker like a flashlight beam and doesn't spread around very much so you need to aim it where the IR is looking (hopefully at your trees.)
I have successfully employed these ultrasonic systems and have kept most mammals and many birds away from the protected area. Some of the ultrasonic systems have selectable patterns, some of which are more pet friendly. The most effective is a warbling yelper siren pattern similar to those annoying emergency sirens but ultrasonic.
Pat
RichNJKubota
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I use 4 or 5 ft high wire fence with just a couple wood stakes in the ground. Each tree is fenced. Every year or two I take the fence down and pull the weeds and mulch.
Everything else, IMO, is either too expensive or requires that I be guarding the trees 24hrs per day.
If you don't like the look of fence then I'd suggest some sort of automatic machine gun.
Everything else, IMO, is either too expensive or requires that I be guarding the trees 24hrs per day.
If you don't like the look of fence then I'd suggest some sort of automatic machine gun.
RalphVa said:
Ralph,
While not "politically correct" in todays liberal run world, your method is the most humane. Either kill them and thin the herd down so the habitat can support them, or let them continue out of control, spread disease, starve, eat all the native plants into extinction and then total out cars and trucks when they cross the roadways at dawn and dusk -- where they die in terrible pain from the car crash.
J
JCB
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John,
Do us a favor and please don't go there. I'm actually enjoying this thread! I get enough right/left on the radio.
Thanks,
JCB
Do us a favor and please don't go there. I'm actually enjoying this thread! I get enough right/left on the radio.
Thanks,
JCB
patrick_g
Elite Member
About the IR motiion detector "SCARE CROW", I build a DIY very much like the scarecrow YEARS before it came out and circulated plans widely. Anyway, the scarecrow runs on a battery and that can be useful. My DIY original used regular 120VAC power.
Get a cheap IR motion detector security light. Flip the test switch to the test position. Connect a solenoid water valve from a dishwasher (often free from used appliance repair shop) in place of a light bulb. Hook a rainbird or other impulse type sprinkler to the solenoid valve. When a "target" is detected the water is turned on. After the target is gone the water is shut off in about 10 seconds (due to being in TEST position.) Will work in daylight as TEST position defeats the photocell too. I built mine for about $10 a copy (already had sprinkler.)
Pat
Get a cheap IR motion detector security light. Flip the test switch to the test position. Connect a solenoid water valve from a dishwasher (often free from used appliance repair shop) in place of a light bulb. Hook a rainbird or other impulse type sprinkler to the solenoid valve. When a "target" is detected the water is turned on. After the target is gone the water is shut off in about 10 seconds (due to being in TEST position.) Will work in daylight as TEST position defeats the photocell too. I built mine for about $10 a copy (already had sprinkler.)
Pat
