delvac is great

   / delvac is great #11  
From my perspective Delvac 1300 is just another oil. Its sister, the synthetic Delvac, is exceptional. It's the Mobil I for the big stuff. It's been around for at least twenty years.
 
   / delvac is great #12  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( They are not that great. )</font> The oil doesnt have to be that great. The oil only has to protect the moving parts adequately enough to prevent premature failure. What you are talking about is how much "margin" in those numbers do want to have? Marketing is at work in this particular issue.

Bottom line is this: "Is your engine adequately protected from severe machine wear or not? How much protection do you need?"

If longer drain intervals is important to you, then get the lube with the most additives, as this poster described. However, if the original poster describes that Delvac is a very good product, then YES this Delvac will provide adequate protection for the user.

As a basic approach, a user changes the oil when the additives are depleted. You can use oil analysis for this determination or use time based recommendations from the mfg or oil supplier (since the mfg has no idea the operating conditions for you, so he assumes worst case, i.e. severe operating conditions).

Overall, Junkman is probably accurate in this case. As a tractor owner you really dont need to crunch all these numbers and evalute the merits of each oil. What is the most important thing for us is that the oil is changed periodically BEFORE any significant damage occurs to the engine. Synthetics do a better job of it. No question about it. I seriously doubt any of us are going to use our tractors enough to ever see an overhaul required....i.e. 4000-8000 hrs.

I use Delvac 1 in my new Kubota L3130 and change oil based on the mfg recommended 100 hr intervals.

just my $0.02 worth.
dwight

OBTW, maybe my dad was right.
"Buy the cheapest gasoline you can find and buy the most expensive lubricants you can find".
 
   / delvac is great #13  
As per the origional poster "..... It is great". I am just showing the real numbers (data) to show it is not that great. I am just really supprised that some key areas are very low.

If you drain accordingly that is fine; but for me, I feel for $14 I will see what is going on in my $17,000 tractor with a simple test...But that is me.
 
   / delvac is great #14  
Hello gsxr1100.

Actually, I thought you made some good points.
I was just trying to illustrate that an oil user has two main options.

one: oil analysis and interpretation/evaluation of results
two: regular oil drain with the assumption what you are doing is correct.

Your method (number one) is probably superior. There is an associated expense, i.e $14 and you must have the ability or trust someone's ability to interprete the data correctly.

Number two, is easier and takes only a little brain power.

Good job on not taking the easy route like I do!

I would be interested in your test results.

thanks for your posting, I learned from it.

dwight
 
   / delvac is great #15  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If you drain accordingly that is fine; but for me, I feel for $14 I will see what is going on in my $17,000 tractor with a simple test...But that is me. )</font>

For me, I will spend $18 to change 6 quarts of synthetic Rotella oil and install a new filter every 100 hours on my $17,000 (OK.. I am exaggerating, it cost me $15,500) Kubota BX22. You will spend $14 to have the oil tested and still have to change the oil at some unknown time in the future. There is no question about that. Will you spend an additional $14 to do a additional oil quality check or will you just change the oil? At what point in time (hours of operation) would you be changing oil having had your oil analysis done? Some people have to open up the watch to see what makes it tick. Others are just happy that it is ticking and they can tell the time. I am of the persuasion that I want to know what time it is and don't need to see the mechanism to know that it is working. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / delvac is great #16  
I just had to jump onto this topic.:)

The test reults are pretty cut-and-dry. Most labs will prove data on the back on the results.

I posted the areas that you the consumer should be worry about when using a good diesel oil. SOme are good and some are better. You can trust the label if you know what I mean.
 
   / delvac is great #17  
oil results are great to see what is up. What if you have an injector problem you would never know without a test resutls. The injector lets more fuel go into the cyl and thus the unburned fuel gets into the oil. Then the oils gets thinner and you get the hint here.

Mayeb some cam bearings are going (Cu or Alu) and again you would never know. I think for the $14, it is worth it.

You bring up good points but some internal issues you would never pickup until it breaks (thus the unit is out of service) or you monitor it).

Lastly, I guess that is the engineer in me. It is like when I got my motorcycle and that spring I took it all apart. Or when I get a new gun I have to tkae it all apart to see how it works; until a "feed" spring goes boooong!

Either way to do oil changes in fine, but these oil tests have saved me twice so far.
 
   / delvac is great #18  
The big question on everyones mind is what oil do you use in your tractor? You said you like Amsoil, but you didn't say if you used it. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / delvac is great #19  
In my BX22 I do use Amsoil 15w-40. I started using it in my F350 Powerstroke and it worked great in there (or so the oils stated). Their S3000 is better in a few ares; but, the price is more the 2X. Is it the best or greatest oil out there, nope. Do people like other brands, sure. The oil used in any engine is only one part of story. I just say whatever oil you use, I would personly get it tested. Once you do you will see how good it is for what you pay for. You will never ever see he state any oil is the best out there.

What gets me is that Delvac is low in Ba, P, Ca and Zn. I would want more of these in my diesel oil; but that is me.

I was going to switch to LE but I can't bing myself to pay over $4 for a petro oil. Fleetguard oil is also pretty good from what I have read.

And lastly I am not a dealer either.
 
   / delvac is great #20  
Very good information in some of the posts in this thread. Is the API certification seal on Amsoil containers now? Years ago there was a big debate about Amsoil not having the certification seal on their products. I know that the seal may not guarantee you anything, but at the price you pay for Amsoil it should be there.

I have a couple of quarts of Delvac 1 (Mobil 1 Truck and SUV) oil waiting to do the first change in the Yanmar in my JD X595. Personally, I am confused by the technical data but I had heard some positive analysis reports on it on Bobtheoilguy forums here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000107

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