Dissapointment with DEERE

[jd4310man]

I just bought a 3203 with a 300CX loader. After I got it home and got a chance to look it over real good, I discovered that the tires and all the metal castings on the loader are made in china! What a dissapointment for DEERE!
I dont mind that the engine is Jap, cause I know they make good stuff and they are not communist! For Deere to sell out to china, even if it just a few components makes me sick!! I love John Deere, but I am not happy about this at all. Half the point of buying a Deere is to be buying a top quality American made product!!!
I still love my John Deere, but I am very dissapointed to say the least!

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

John Deere is a "global" company...not saying that to defend them but it is the reality of business today. I know my dealer dosen't claim his stuff is "All-American" I am proud to drive a Ford truck but my F250 was assembled in Mexico!

 

[DreaminGreen]

When my 3520 was delivered and I noticed the "China" stamp (on the castings) not the "USA" that I was sort of expecting it was a suprise.

But they do have to compete AND keep Wall Street happy so I guess we should'nt be suprised, just a little sad.

 

[Nuru]

John Deere is a "global" company...not saying that to defend them but it is the reality of business today. I know my dealer dosen't claim his stuff is "All-American" I am proud to drive a Ford truck but my F250 was assembled in Mexico!

well isn't it all North American?

 

[jimg]

Just wondering out loud...if its made in China and labor costs are substantially less does JD pass along the savings?

 

[unit40]

Just wondering out loud...if its made in China and labor costs are substantially less does JD pass along the savings?

Absa freekin lootly not. They just increase their profit margin. Shareholders oh so happy.,')

 

[rdln]

You did not do your homework, the Chinax loader has been mentioned here alot. The 3000's first came out with serbian tires now they are china eh?

Ironically go to kioto dealer and look at all the Titan Rubber, yep good american made stuff.

 

[froggy]

I know that we have to have world trade, but paying a premium for something from China just doesn't go down well.

 

[Tritonman]

Look what the JD stock has done the last couple of years. It is up 300-400 percent I believe. Just like any company they go where it makes the most sense to make money. Name a single tractor that is made with all american stuff and I would be surprised. JD does make there air seeders right down the road about 30 miles from where I live in ND. Assembled with parts made from who knows where.

 

[Killer_B]

I discovered that the tires and all the metal castings on the loader are made in china! What a dissapointment for DEERE!

This is yet another reason to research TBN before you buy. This fact is plastered all over the place on this board. It's not a secret.

I don't care for Red China any more than the next guy. But it seems like half of what I own comes from there. Arrrg.

KB

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

John Deere is a "global" company...not saying that to defend them but it is the reality of business today. I know my dealer dosen't claim his stuff is "All-American" I am proud to drive a Ford truck but my F250 was assembled in Mexico!

My '03 F-350 7.3L was assembled in the US.

 

[CurlyDave]

I would much rather buy something chinese from Deere than from Wally World.

At Wally World I am on my own for quality. Deere buys enough quantity that they can write a specification and whoever makes the part will actually try hard to live up to it.

Deere has the resources to do incoming inspection, so I get what they wanted in a spec, and they have enough confidence to include it in their warranty.

Lower prices? You already get that. The price the tractor sells for represents the best that Deere thinks they can do on that model. They know they have competition. I will bet you that the Dealer makes a lot more on each tractor sold than Deere does.

I bought my machine based on the local Dealer and how I "felt" about his shop. I don't think I made a mistake. I could have paid less for a Kubota, but the features were different, and I would have been buying from a dealer who made his primary money selling ATVs. The sales guys would have taken my order, but they had no idea what they were doing otherwise. The Deere salesman came out to my land and looked at what I wanted. Then he recommended what he felt was the right equipment.

And, best of all, he got it right.

 

[Superduper]

I know that we have to have world trade, but paying a premium for something from China just doesn't go down well.

You can always buy something 100% chinese made without the premium, then you'll get a Nortrac for a bunch less, but what will be the quality level.

As someone here already said, most large companies write very specific specifications on how something is built, then offer the work to whoever can do it cheaper. The Frontier line is a perfect example: There has been lots of discussion regarding who builds their box blades. Turns out that more than one company has built them and they always look the same. It's not the company that builds them that's important, it is the design and specifications. I have not heard anything BAD here on the forums regarding the quality of their loaders or tires. Take heart, you got a good product.

The fact that you want to support our own country's economy and not buy foreign is commendable. I am the same way. But I also find that for every consumer willing to do so, oftentimes paying significantly more, that there are many many more who couldn't care less and will buy foreign in a sec if it was cheaper. Truth of the matter is that for large companies to be competitive and survive, they have to be smart and compete on price. To do so sometimes mean subcontracting out of the country, if necessary, if the same product can be built to the same specifications for less. The country as a whole is not loyal enough to a company or a country to purchase blind without comparing value.

To that end, does anyone know of a true 100% genuine american made tractor product?

 

[JDCOMPACTMAN]

The day that John Deere put it's product in Home Depot , I realized it was the beginning of the end!

 

[smfcpacfp]

You should only be disappointed in yourself, not John Deere. I think there main purpose is to stay in business, stay competitive and profitable. they operate in a global economy.

If having a 100% American made tractor was important to you, that should have been your first research critera. If you wanted to have a 100% American made tractor then you probably would have found yourself in the older used tractor market.

 

[MasseyWV]

"Made in China" parts is one of the reasons I did not select a Deere, the other was their relatively high price.

If I wanted "Made in China", I would have bought a Jinma or some other no-name brands.

 

[jd4310man]

I realize that no tractor is going to be made with 100% american components, I just wish that they would have went elsewear other than china for some of the components. On the other hand, I am happy with my purchase despite the fact that a few parts came from china. I do trust that I bought a good machine.

 

[DreaminGreen]

Is'nt it kind of weird we are doing so much dealing with a communist nation. I mean we can barely talk with Cuba, Russia good god don't even think about it... during the cold war. China I guess its ok even though they have a terrible human rights record too.

 

[jwcinpk]

I find it puzzling that so may people have a hard time with outsourcing to china, but few mention the outsourcing Deere has done to India. Is it because products from India are typically made better than those from China.
I've often wondered why companies don't try setting up shop in small towns with little else in them here in the US. Take where I am from, the highest paying factory in town only pays about $7.50 a hour. Unemloyment is through the roof. Wouldn't a lower paid America worker make more sense than such poor quality that comes from China? Our government needs to wise up and help companies that are willing to do this.

 

[bx24]

At Wally World I am on my own for quality. Deere buys enough quantity that they can write a specification and whoever makes the part will actually try hard to live up to it.

Deere has the resources to do incoming inspection, so I get what they wanted in a spec, and they have enough confidence to include it in their warranty.

Two things: I think Deere make a fine product, and I like being able to go the local HF store and buy a 4" grinder for $9.99. But as was just proven with all the lead in the toys issues, I think it is naive to expect the same quality regardless of how many inspections or expectations are in place. Like it or not, we are in a global economy more than ever before and this is simply a fact of life.

I guess the bright side is that all of the steel used in those castings probably came from either raw or recycled materials in the US. Think of it as "Cast in China"