Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.

/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #1  

Ozoner

New member
Joined
Apr 5, 2017
Messages
15
Location
Upstate,NY
Tractor
Jacobson HR-15
Hi all,

I own two Drive In Theater's in NY and I'm in the market for a sub-compact tractor. I'm thinking about the Massey Ferguson GC 1720. I would also like a mower deck for a backup to my Jacobson triple deck mower. Probably a rake would help for my needs also. I think there is a package deal with a tow trailer which I could use to move my equipment between locations. The Drive ins tend to get a lot of driveway washout and are in need of some tile line drainage on low spots near marquee and my storage garage. I'm also searching for a smaller dump truck for gravel and crushed stone needs. I've spent too much on redoing my driveways that I should have just bought equipment years ago and It can be business write off lol. I know there is a recent thread here on the Massey Ferguson gc 1720 so I will ask my questions there.

Thanks,

Bill aka Ozoner
 
Last edited:
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #2  
I guess you'll be OK with a small dump truck. Our local quarry no longer allows pickups. It seems their loader didn't see one and backed over it.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.
  • Thread Starter
#3  
I guess you'll be OK with a small dump truck. Our local quarry no longer allows pickups. It seems their loader didn't see one and backed over it.

My local quarry will dump a large bucket of crushed stone on any pick up for I think 5 or 10 bucks. I'm hoping to find some decent equipment and get to work. The snow has only just melted and it is a bit mucky lol.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #4  
How many people have you caught trying to sneak in your theater hiding in trunks?
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #5  
G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

The only advice I can give is to visit the various dealerships in as far a radius as you want to go. Be honest with the salesman as to what you need a tractor to do for your business. Check out their service and parts department, that sort of thing. We tend not to push (or bad-mouth) a particular colour of tractor, here on TBN... mind you, we are usually proud of the colour we did choose. :)

Enjoy the site.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #6  
:welcome:

Thanks for keeping the drive-in theater alive :)
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #7  
Well said wagtail, there all good generally, best thing to do is sit down and list out all the possible things you wish this tractor to do, list out everything you wish in the future to possibly do with that tractor and chose the tractor that best fits those needs.

For example: loader capacity, PTO HP for running attachments like rear mowers some day, tilling or and ground engagement work.

All tractors are made a little different, everyone has different comfort points when operating, I would suggest, make that list, find all the different brands and models that suit those needs and take the time, visit all the dealerships and drive all the tractors on that list, there's usually one that stands out and it may not be the massy. I personally haven't operated any of the newer massy tractors but the ones on here the guys seem to really like them.

So for drive restoration you will want a FEL and a Land Plane, you can use a box blade but there not as easy to operate properly. If there's no particular budget to worry about a 3pt quick hitch would be on my list, it makes taking off and hooking up to attachments much easier.

You can decide 3pt mower (bush hog or Finnish mower) or belly deck on mowers.

Choice of tires, R1 agricultural, R4 industrial, Turf Savers.

For your needs I would go Turfs (Turfs use diff rims than R4s or R1s), 30-40hp tractor with a FEL, rear finish mower and land plane with a 3pt quick attach for convenience. To start you off
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.
  • Thread Starter
#8  
Thank you Folks,

I appreciate the input. I have a LOT to learn. To answer the question on trunk dwellers at the Drive-In Yes that is always part of the business. I usually, after catching them send them to the snack bar to buy lots of GOODIES to make up for the ticket theft {more profit in the concession sales lol}. And I really love the comments and the thanks for keeping this portion of America alive.

Ozoner Bill
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #9  
Thank you Folks,

I appreciate the input. I have a LOT to learn. To answer the question on trunk dwellers at the Drive-In Yes that is always part of the business. I usually, after catching them send them to the snack bar to buy lots of GOODIES to make up for the ticket theft {more profit in the concession sales lol}. And I really love the comments and the thanks for keeping this portion of America alive.

Ozoner Bill
I would disagree with the land plane suggestion.
While it is an easy implement to use for leveling, as you know, your drive-in is not level.
You need to level some areas, but you also need to maintain a pitch on each of your parking rows.
Over time, the land plane will be slowly tearing down that pitch.
A rear blade will take a lot more finesse to use, but it will keep your rows in much better condition.
Way back in the late 50's I worked as an assistant to the owner of a drive-in (707 cars), but we had an all asphalt surface.
That drive-in, I worked at 60 years ago, is still alive and well!
Wellfleet Drive-In Theatre !!!
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #10  
Ozoner Bill, I have fond memories at the drive ins! Great to see you still keeping some Americana alive. Bob
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #11  
I would disagree with the land plane suggestion.
While it is an easy implement to use for leveling, as you know, your drive-in is not level.
You need to level some areas, but you also need to maintain a pitch on each of your parking rows.
Over time, the land plane will be slowly tearing down that pitch.
A rear blade will take a lot more finesse to use, but it will keep your rows in much better condition.
Way back in the late 50's I worked as an assistant to the owner of a drive-in (707 cars), but we had an all asphalt surface.
That drive-in, I worked at 60 years ago, is still alive and well!
Wellfleet Drive-In Theatre !!!

The drive ins I have been to were always flat gravel drives and lots/rows. It was divided by color, small cars park in the center and closer to the screen, SUVs and trucks in the back and further off to the sides, the screen was big enough it was never an issue parking this way.

The movies played on an AM station or threw the little speaker boxes by the parking spots.

And below the screen was 40-50ft of grass you could put chairs and blankets on. I always put a mattress in the bed of my pickup with a bunch of blankets and invited a bunch of my friends, those days we could fit 5-6 of us on a full size mattress in the bed of my F150 lol

The good old days.

They also charged by person up to 4 then it was a car load price so hiding in the trunk wasn't needed lol.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.
  • Thread Starter
#12  
I would disagree with the land plane suggestion.
While it is an easy implement to use for leveling, as you know, your drive-in is not level.
You need to level some areas, but you also need to maintain a pitch on each of your parking rows.
Over time, the land plane will be slowly tearing down that pitch.
A rear blade will take a lot more finesse to use, but it will keep your rows in much better condition.
Way back in the late 50's I worked as an assistant to the owner of a drive-in (707 cars), but we had an all asphalt surface.
That drive-in, I worked at 60 years ago, is still alive and well!
Wellfleet Drive-In Theatre !!!

Very Cool!!

One of the owners of Wellfleet is the president of our United Drive In Theater Owners Association. That is a very nice theatre!!
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.
  • Thread Starter
#13  
The drive ins I have been to were always flat gravel drives and lots/rows. It was divided by color, small cars park in the center and closer to the screen, SUVs and trucks in the back and further off to the sides, the screen was big enough it was never an issue parking this way.

The movies played on an AM station or threw the little speaker boxes by the parking spots.

And below the screen was 40-50ft of grass you could put chairs and blankets on. I always put a mattress in the bed of my pickup with a bunch of blankets and invited a bunch of my friends, those days we could fit 5-6 of us on a full size mattress in the bed of my F150 lol

The good old days.

They also charged by person up to 4 then it was a car load price so hiding in the trunk wasn't needed lol.

I'm sure those were great times. We were car load at my older Drive in until 2002 then the studios got very greedy and wouldn't let me show first run. I would of had to wait till almost dvd release to show the films so we became per-person to receive new releases.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #14  
The drive ins I have been to were always flat gravel drives and lots/rows. It was divided by color, small cars park in the center and closer to the screen, SUVs and trucks in the back and further off to the sides, the screen was big enough it was never an issue parking this way.

The movies played on an AM station or threw the little speaker boxes by the parking spots.

And below the screen was 40-50ft of grass you could put chairs and blankets on. I always put a mattress in the bed of my pickup with a bunch of blankets and invited a bunch of my friends, those days we could fit 5-6 of us on a full size mattress in the bed of my F150 lol

The good old days.

They also charged by person up to 4 then it was a car load price so hiding in the trunk wasn't needed lol.

Never have seen a "flat" drive-in theatre!
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance.
  • Thread Starter
#15  
Ozoner Bill, I have fond memories at the drive ins! Great to see you still keeping some Americana alive. Bob

Thank you Bob, I love it:)
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #16  
Thank you Bob, I love it:)

The original owner/manager of the theater John M. Jentz, was a personal friend of mine.
I can walk to the theater from my 287 year old family home (which I still use in Summer).
Original business name was: Spring Brook Center Inc. Don't know if they are still using that.
I started working there in about 1955?..... when they first opened.
Of course, they now have an indoor 4 theater facility as well.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #17  
Never have seen a "flat" drive-in theatre!

Sky view drive in theater in Lancaster Ohio, you can google and see the lot, if it's sloped, it's not by enough that I remembered.
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #18  
I'd get a CUT (35-40 hp engine, hydrostatic tranny, 4WD, power steering, dual rear hydraulic remotes, front end loader with 5-ft wide bucket and skid steer quick attach option, and, possibly, a cab).

Implements: for the driveways between the speaker rows I'd use a 5-ft wide land plane. For the parking areas by the speakers I'd use some type of heavy roller/scraper implement and drive over the humps in a direction perpendicular to the driveways.

Good luck
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #19  
Forgot to ask if your drive-in is paved with coarse gravel or with crusher run gravel (mix of coarse, medium and fine size gravel) like that used on driveways and as the gravel base for paved county roads. Also, remembering back to the early 1950s, before the gates at the drive-in opened each night, the gravel was dampened to keep the dust down. Tanker truck. I assume this practice is still used. Before dressing up the gravel with your tractor and implements, it might be a good idea to wet down the gravel.

Personal note: my son, DIL and grandkids enjoy the new drive-in that was opened 2 or 3 years ago in the town they live in, Guymon OK.

Good luck
 
/ Drive In Theatre owner looking for best tractor for regular maintenance. #20  
was to young to remember drive in thetere that i went too, once or twice.

might suggest posting a picture of your lots. and give approx acreage of the lots. this would give other folks ability to see what you are up against. and help you narrow down your choices.

3 sites for used and new equipment
TractorHouse.com | Used Tractors For Sale: John Deere, Case IH, New Holland, Kubota.
MachineryTrader.com | Backhoes for sale, skid steers, excavators, dozers.
craigslist: chicago jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events

craiglist = be careful if looks to go to be true most likely a scam. if ad is there one day and gone next, most likely folks flagged it for scam and it was removed. ((have personal been flagging some crud lately as on search for a vehicle))

box blade most likely wanted, mainly due to the scraficer teeth / rippers you can raise / lower. to help break up compacted rock areas. then come back and re-smooth things out.
a rear blade might be a good choice as well.
land plane / scraper grader might be a good choice as well

all 3 above have there specific uses, but needing some sort of ripper/scrapper is going to be wanted most likely. to deal with hard compacted rock. a rear blade may seem extra, but there short thickness as in being able to back right up to an area and drop blade down to scrap rock away from fences to concrete wheel stops for cars and like. land plane / scrapper might be wanted as well. they act like a "sifter" per say, bring larger rock that has sunk down into the ground some and bring the rock back up on top of the surface. allowing the smaller stuff to fall down below.

TNT (top and tilt) it is expensive, but i am guessing you have enough curves, ditches, and like, were you wall want to constantly adjust the angle of the above 3 items. using the turnbuckles to adjust the 3pt hitch is slow and painful. the TNT replaces the turn buckles on the 3pt hitch with a hydraulic cylinder one for top link and one of the side link turnbuckles. it can really help ya get final touches on stuff and feather things out as you finishing things out.

make sure you get the extra check chains / sway bars/chains for 3pt hitch. 3pt hitches are better designed for pulling stuff, when you go into a turn and not pickup an implement you can twist and damage the 3pt hitch, the chains/bars help keep things under control better. also 3pt hitch not really best when backing up with implement on ground. while 3pt hitch can do it. you are at higher risk of buckling and bending the 3pt hitch up some.

FEL (front end loader) most likely going to be wanted, standard bucket with straight edge on it for a lip. so you can back grade and move material around as needed.
not sure if a "tooth bar" make it bolt on or strap on for FEL bucket. would be needed for you.

not sure if you would need a chain harrow or harrow or like, to help smooth stuff out. if you have pea gravel. and some grass / weeds here and there. then it might be suggested then. so you can rip stuff up with say a box blade rippers and smooth stuff out, then run harrow across stuff to drag all the clumps of dirt / weeds out to one side of the lot / spot to come back and shovel out / scrap away with FEL.

if you get option of a backhoe bucket, you do not need something largely wide, but say 6 to 8" wide, and longer between back of bucket to the teeth / cutting edge. hopefully some sort of hole/s on back side of bucket so if you get into wet mud, suction power does not hold the mud in the bucket (holes break suction and let mud fall out) teeth on backhoe bucket can be nice, to help break into really compacted nearly seems like concrete dirt. but it is just really compacted and dry dirt.

=============

be careful if drive in is old lot, and rock lot is worn down, you may be at higher risk, of snagging a wire or like going to individual speaker locations to each car spot. get your lots marked out for were all the wires run. and then take some video and lots of pictures. so you can review them a year from now, and remember were the wires are.

=============

to note it, if i see a lot of physical individual park spots, with clearly defined spots. i might suggest going with a skid steer. simple to the fact you can turn them on a dime in any direction. and ability to maneuver right were you want nice and fast. vs a tractor that has a big turning radius.

i am not a fan of smaller tractors in sub compact range, due to they tend to lack one crucial thing i require. "split" left and right rear brakes. so i can brake the right tire to turn quicker, or left brake to turn left quicker. along with simply getting my rear unstuck (been there done that way to many times).

=============
if you see a water tank couple hundered gallons or so. or a little trailer you could load up with some 55 gallon drums and plumb them together. to create a DIY spray rig might be suggested, if you are having problems with "dust storms" from wind blowing. so you can load up trailer with water and run across area to wet stuff down. every now and then you can pickup say a 400 to 500 gallon water tank that fits in back of pickup trucks fairly cheap. having stuff slightly wet after you get done grading, can help get stuff to "compact better" so folks are not tearing stuff up later on.

i would avoid the thought of hooking a regular trail to back of tractor. the 3pt hitch. raises up be default, and can cause the rear tires of tractor to come off ground. granted many folks including myself hook up trailers to 3pt hitch, but you need "STAY STRAPS/BARS" for the 3pt hitch so as to keep the 3pt hitch at certain position. between times of unhooking another implement, putting on stay straps, and hooking up to trailer. you could of hooked up to a regular truck and already spraying.

with above said, another sub compact tractor issue, you may not have a spot / hole that comes out under tractor just below the PTO shaft to put a ball on. to hook up to a trailer. so can avoid 3pt hitch all together when hooking up to a trailer.

a bigger lawn roller, or being able to load the FEL up with something, and put weight on rear end of tractor. and simply driving over entire lot, 1 tire width at a time, might help with compaction as well.
 
Last edited:

Marketplace Items

(10) UNUSED 1.5" RATCHET STRAPS (A60430)
(10) UNUSED 1.5"...
UNUSED FUTURE REMOTE CONTROLLED TOY (A60430)
UNUSED FUTURE...
UNUSED RAYTREE RMLL60-60" HYD LAND LEVELER (A60432)
UNUSED RAYTREE...
2008 INTERNATIONAL WORKSTAR 7400 SBA 6X4 DUMP TRK (A57192)
2008 INTERNATIONAL...
2021 Allmand Bros Maxi-Lite II 20kW S/A Towable Light Tower (A55973)
2021 Allmand Bros...
UNUSED RAYTREE RMDM72-72" HYD DRUM MULCHER (A60432)
UNUSED RAYTREE...
 
Top