Driverless Cars

[3930dave]

Thanks for sharing the story.

You're welcome G.

Some of the links I've posted recently speak to how complicated this is to do right. 2 Choices: A) Hit a calf in the road, and B) Hit a little kid. Depending what country you are in, the answer may change.

Software is pretty much the easiest industry to take global. That article about the Kenyan workforce pre-chewing data for AI to eat gives some idea of the massive amount of data AI needs to "understand" in human terms.

Bird's dog incident - AI sensors might have detected it earlier, but would the action be guaranteed ? I was thinking of the homeless pedestrian killed in Tempe last year......

Can't remember if I posted it...... Volvo (?) testing in Oz..... software had a hard time with kangaroos.... their hopping motion tended to confuse the existing sware...... Funny in some respects, but another simple example of the challenges....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Military has been working on it for years.

DARPA Grand Challenge - Wikipedia

Here's one of many videos.

DARPA Grand Challenge: Final Part 2 - YouTube

Bruce

Right Tool for job, chosen appropriately.

Let's start with today...... what are the chances that mission-critical military diesels rely on DEF tanks ?

Skills, like muscles, tend to atrophy if not used. 30 years ago, some people weren't that good with reading maps (talking driving on-road, not traversing 200 miles of bushland). How would people do today, with GPS down, or (civilian) switched Off ?

I don't really care about day to day tasks (in the context of this thread). Pilots are a good example - most of commercial flying doesn't need a pilot, and hasn't for a long time - what they are really there for is when things Go Wrong....... Go Wrong..... Didn't work out so well for that brand new Lion Boeing plane recently.....

Lot's of low-level tasks will continue to be automated within western military forces..... humans are expensive, both in terms of $, and politically.

Mission critical - can't see control being totally abdicated to a driverless vehicle when a Seal Team or JTF2 force deploys.

Civilians...... well, future non-rich drivers having no real choice is one possible scenario.....

Rgds, D.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

Spoon-feeding AI data.....

Why Big Tech pays poor Kenyans to programme self-driving cars - BBC News

Rgds, D.

Interesting story but I have to quibble with the headline. The people in the article are doing data processing, not programming.

 

[3930dave]

Interesting story but I have to quibble with the headline. The people in the article are doing data processing, not programming.

Agreed..... I have higher expectations of the bbc editors.....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Well done by local PD.

CHP: Drunk driver slept while Tesla appeared to drive Hwy 11 on autopilot - SFChronicle.com

You can debate that ^ idiotic scenario several ways...... but I don't think even Elon will try marketing them as "Great for Drunks and Stoners"...... at least for a while yet......

Rgds, D.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^
I read that and thought of this thread, but you posted it first.

 

[3930dave]

It was only a matter of time, before this scenario played out.....

Rgds, D.

 

[cqaigy2]

It was only a matter of time, before this scenario played out.....

Rgds, D.

Reminds me of the storys that went around when cruise control came to vehicles, people thought it would drive their cars. :laughing:

 

[Gator6x4]

Robot or AI driven cars will remove the excitement of driving down the highway with such good attentive drivers as these.

51 CRAZY Things People Do While Driving


I wonder if a AI driven car will almost come to a stop on a Interstate Highway so they can watch a person change a flat tire? Or if they will back traffic up up miles on a divided highway while they rubber neck to see the wreck on the other side of the divided highway. This has gotten so bad some cities have raised the center median up to height that prevent drivers from seeing what is happening in the opposing lanes.

 

[prof fate]

Every tech revolution - and self driving cars will be that big time - brings the good and the bad.

Cars the first time - brought many good things (roads, industry) and bad things (opec/oil wars, pollution, hiway accidents, drunk driving - i'm sure that happend on horses but odds are you didn't kill anyone while riding home from the bar).

Self driving cars - how would YOU use one? - Door drop off at every store - let the car park itself - or circle town till I"m ready for it.
-no more shuttling my kids around - just send the car!
-heard on the radio they expect sex on wheels to be common in self driving cars..plus no doubt drinking, sleeping, watching movies, working, etc.

Revolution...taxi service, OTR truckers, gone. Delivery 'pods' - your car has 2,000 moving parts. an elec car, 20. Your car uses $2k a year in gas. An elec car $300 in juice. RIGHT NOW you can buy elec cars for LESS than the avg price of a new car - and it will get cheaper as battery prices/performance are improving at 14-16% a year - and accellerating!

Ford and GM have already started planning for the elec future. Less than 5 years I bet 30% of the cars sold will be elec. And I may be low on that. 3 years ago the self driving tech (sensors, computers, etc) cost $50,000 per car - now they are $1700. Yes, under 2k.

AT&T in 1985, huge corp, predicted cell phone usage in 2000 to be 985,000 phones. They missed that...it was 100,000,000- nd that was BEFORE smart phones. A mix of tech and price made that happen.

YOu don't know you want, or need it - till you have it or can have it.

I grew up with one phone in the house, no answering machine, 4 or 5 TV channels and no remote, no recording, not even 24 hour TV, no microwave or crock pot. Coffee was made on the stove.

Now you can watch ANYTHING on your phone ANYWHERE..internet gives you access to all human knowledge instantly.

Elec self driving cars will replace most privately owned cars in 20 years - you'll use an app to have a ride show up, subscription like. No need to own a car, pay insurance, maintenance, etc.

More room in the garage for a self driving tractor! LOL