Electric vehicles during a disaster

[Doofy]

Maybe you could move to Houston, in time for the next hurricane.

I don't do Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Typhoons or Floods. I ride out the Earthquakes and strive to be Firewise. I plow, shovel and roof-rake the Snow and have ample wood supply for heat. Life is Good! Forgot those annoying Volcanos, we just sweep the ash off when they act up!

Hahahahahaha, I'm starting to feel like Pecos Bill!

 

[setxjeff]

Hurricane Rita had hurricane strength winds 111 miles inland.
I live 48 miles inland from where eye came ashore, so 50 miles would not have got me out of the hurricane. I crazily rode out Rita will never do that again, category 1;2;3 stay category 4 and 5 leave. Plus as noted in Texas you have to go several miles to get enough rooms and restaurants to support large groups of people.

 

[Hay Dude]

CA in one breath = We forbid you to buy more ICE vehicles.
The next breath = we forbid you to recharge your electric car today. Oh yeah and don't water your lawn either.
Are they serious. Obviously these people have lost their minds.

What really drives them nuts is when they find out their state purchases power from neighboring states generated by….ready for it….

COAL

 

[GeneV]

I’m anti electric cars but you’re really stretching the truth to say most people have an extra 5 gallons of gas sitting around. What percent of people do you think keep their vehicle under 1/4 tank of gas as well? The answer is a lot. And it only takes a few unprepared idiots running out of fuel to make a big problem for everyone else.

I guess the key is to not be "that guy" with <1/4 tank of gas. Personally, I always keep my cars near full.

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m anti electric cars but you’re really stretching the truth to say most people have an extra 5 gallons of gas sitting around. What percent of people do you think keep their vehicle under 1/4 tank of gas as well? The answer is a lot. And it only takes a few unprepared idiots running out of fuel to make a big problem for everyone else.

Much easier issue to deal with than dead batteries in a EV in a traffic jam

 

[Doofy]

Those EV users could just carry around a suitcase generator in the trunk.

 

[GeneV]

Those EV users could just carry around a suitcase generator in the trunk.

Tesla makes a pickup now, perfect for toting around a generator!

 

[Doofy]

The idea of the EV is great but they are just not ready for Prime Time.

 

[bnold]

300+ miles would be plenty to get me safety away from a hurricane I’d think?

EV wouldn’t be my emergency vehicle of choice, but a hurricane, what’s the problem? Are we talking about getting to safety? Or driving to their hurricane vacation destination?

Speaking of which, we could sure use a hurricane or 2 right now, reservoirs are a bit low in N. Tex, a good hurricane is useful to top them off.

 

[cqaigy2]

What really drives them nuts is when they find out their state purchases power from neighboring states generated by….ready for it….

COAL

Nope, WATER.

 

[4570Man]

Nope, WATER.

Only 12 percent of California power came from hydroelectric electric last year. With the lakes almost empty that number is probably going to drop in the near future. Solar and wind only accounted for 20 percent combined. Natural gas and nuclear made up 60 percent combined.

 

[cqaigy2]

Only 12 percent of California power came from hydroelectric electric last year. With the lakes almost empty that number is probably going to drop in the near future. Solar and wind only accounted for 20 percent combined. Natural gas and nuclear made up 60 percent combined.

What about all the power we send them?

 

[Eagle1]

That don't count toward renewable power. CA was fully renewable electric for 4 sec in April.

 

[ultrarunner]

Caiso shows imported power updated every 5 minutes...

The makeup of imported is often hydro...

I'm thinking the mighty Columbia River?

 

[Hay Dude]

Nope, WATER.

Not what I saw on the “news” last night. They said CA buys energy from neighboring states who burn COAL for electricity.

 

[ultrarunner]

Not what I saw on the “news” last night. They said CA buys energy from neighboring states who burn COAL for electricity.

It depends primarily if power from Pacific Northwest (Hydro) or from Southwest (Nuclear, Coal, Natural Gas Wind, Solar in particular order)

Safe bet pulling from all roughly a third of power +/- imported...

Energy in California - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[ponytug]

CAISO is the site you want to look at it. Lots of data.
Short version; renewables accounted for 32.8% of all power used in California for July 2022, the most recent report released.

Monthly Renewables Performance Report - Jul 2022

All the best,

Peter

 

[RB5]

Got it coveredView attachment 758583

Ford has a frunk where the engine used to be on the F150 Lightning. It can be used to store a generator.

 

[RB5]

About once a month we find a Tesla sitting on the side of the road waiting on the tow truck because they over estimated the distance between charge stations. 110 degree weather can zap a battery.
For now I'll stick with our hybrids for running around and trucks for work and hauling. Not ready for pure EV.
Would love to get the new Ford Lightning if it could tow our trailer the 1,200 miles we run every two months.

That is a big if. I've read a few articles where they tested one towing a heavy trailer. It does the same thing to the EV that is does to the ICE trucks. It greatly increases fuel consumption. With an ICE you just refuel. With an EV you are lucky to find a charging station. Then it might be in use or you might have to sit there for 30 minutes or longer. That is not going to work. I live in Texas and everywhere I drive is usually at least 20 to 30 minutes each way. I would be so stressed out if I could not easily refuel. I am hoping to get a new truck in the next few years before the government says I have to buy an EV. I agree that we should be using hybrids more.

 

[RB5]

There was thread recently asking "Are you a prepper?". I'm more of a Just In Caser than a Prepper. Part of that is looking at the EVs. All of the vehicles manufacturers are working towards Bi-directional batteries now. The power company out here (PG&E) is also working on V2G/V2H charging systems. These are vehicle to grid / vehicle to home systems that will allow your grocery getter to be a battery back for your house. This going to happen. I am definitely looking forward to it.

Or as I have read in other locations, they will pull power from your EV to keep the grid functioning.