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/ Electrical Panel #22  
Do what's already been proposed. Stop by your local home supply store, get a step drill bit and a few cable clamps and be done with it. Not that hard to do, even if the panel is hot. Why take a chance in Codes failing it. There are usually two inspections. A rough in and final.
 
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#23  
The problem with drilling new holes is the way the panel is mounted it is outside inside a box and the wires come in thru the bottom from the back and there is no access to drill anywhere else unless the panel was removed..
 
/ Electrical Panel #24  
Do you have other knockouts with only one cable in them? If so you can use of of them. Otherwise get a 3/4" hole saw (make sure it's for metal or you will burn it out first time) and a romex connector and you're good to go. I'd shut the main when drilling just in case you pop through to far and clip a wire. Not a good feeling.
 
/ Electrical Panel #25  
B7510HSD said:
Can you have more than one wire running thru the same hole/clamp in the panel?? I need to run 3 more circuits and don't have any knock outs left..[/QUOTE
Everyone here with suggestions is speculating just as I am. With a picture of the box and the wiring. One can only make general suggestions as what we would do in your shoes. Post a few pictures to clear the air.
 
/ Electrical Panel #26  
It depends on your local building code. I'm a 3rd gen electrician and I have been running two wires through a single knockout for years w/o any issues with code or inspections. If you have 3 existing knockouts with a single 14/2 or 12/2 wire (which are most common), you can use them. The inspector would probably be more concerned if the cables you run aren't stapled down within 6" of the entry to the panel. I agree with the Kid, a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
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Thanks Guys I won't be back down at the place until my brother has the isnpection we just went ahead and put the circuits in with another wire and clamped them back down we will see what happens...We now have three holes with 2 wires each and we hooked all wires up except for the hot wires..and have the
Arc fault circuits plugged in...:)
 
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#28  
Good news we passed our rough in inspection and were able to get all the insulation in and hook up all the outlets and light..now we can move on to the sheet rock OH BOY!!! Thanks for all your help on this!!
 
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#29  
Well we finally had the time to finish the roughing in the dry wall and covering all the electrical and we passed the final yesterday!!!! Thanks for all the help guys..We were able to run 2 12/2 thru one clamp in the panel no problem...Only thing we had to fix was we weren't aware of the tamper resistant outlets being required!!! Happy Holidays!
 
/ Electrical Panel #31  
those tamper resistant receptacles SUCK. were forced to use them. After a few months, they seem to work ok. but alot of times the inspector isnt even able to plug his tester into them during inspections.
 
/ Electrical Panel #32  
Yes I think something like 46 out of 50 states have adopted the Tamper resistant outlets for new construction.
Isn't it simply amusing how things have changed over the years make me wonder how we ever survived having knob & tube wiring often with bare conductors or at best cotton thread insulation I used to work in a factory that had a single 1000 amp circuit of 4 bar copper buss bar electrical system Bare exposed conductors carrying 3 phase 600 volts through out the building barely high enough that you could not reach up and touch it. Just clip on your machine or transformer where ever needed
 
/ Electrical Panel #33  
Frank Surber said:
Yes I think something like 46 out of 50 states have adopted the Tamper resistant outlets for new construction.
Isn't it simply amusing how things have changed over the years make me wonder how we ever survived having knob & tube wiring often with bare conductors or at best cotton thread insulation I used to work in a factory that had a single 1000 amp circuit of 4 bar copper buss bar electrical system Bare exposed conductors carrying 3 phase 600 volts through out the building barely high enough that you could not reach up and touch it. Just clip on your machine or transformer where ever needed

Yep, all you hear about is the "safety", but the reality is "follow the money".

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/ Electrical Panel #34  
yup, kids now days are protected from everything........ germs, electricity, whatever. when they grow up they will never know about the dangers of electricity cause they have never received a shock before. they will never have been subjected to germs (sanitize soap everything) so they will constantly be sick from never building up any immunity, etc.


i pity the 21st century. all i ever wanted in this 21st century were the levitation boots and flying cars that i was promised as a kid.
 
/ Electrical Panel #35  
you mean you can not stick hair pins in to the out lets any more, they will brand your fingers in a hurry, or that is what I have been told,
seems to me there were some erector kit parts that would glow as well,
 
/ Electrical Panel #36  
Well, we must be doing something right:
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/ Electrical Panel #37  
All the many millions of for our own good safeties have done is remove the prospect of natural selection from helping control the population
you either have enough common sense to refrain from using a Hair dryer in the bath tub or to secure any wall outlets in a manor that prevents your children from being able to play with them or you don't
As for preventing fires in the home one easy way to reduce this, is don't build stick houses.
 
/ Electrical Panel #39  
I got the chart here: NAHB: Fire Death Rates In Newer Homes . They cite their sources, the National Center for Health Statistics. You can get the raw data here: Multiple Cause of Death Data on CDC WONDER.

If you do a google image search for "residential fire deaths graph" you'll get a bunch of graphs. There is no doubt that residential fires have declined dramatically since the adoption of modern building codes after World War II.
 
/ Electrical Panel #40  
I got the chart here: NAHB: Fire Death Rates In Newer Homes . They cite their sources, the National Center for Health Statistics. You can get the raw data here: Multiple Cause of Death Data on CDC WONDER.

If you do a google image search for "residential fire deaths graph" you'll get a bunch of graphs. There is no doubt that residential fires have declined dramatically since the adoption of modern building codes after World War II.
 

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