Engine change out

[northcreek2624]

A distant friend has approached me to do an engine change on his 99 Ford f350, 4x4,Triton V8.The new motor would be a Jasper longblock.
What is the going rate for a job like this and being that I know him what would be a fair price(he's paying for the engine)?
I was thinking about $1000 plus fluids,gaskets and incidentals.
Am I in the ball park or what?
Thanks in advance,I know this isn't tractor related but,the" related topics "forum will not allow me to post??.....Mike

 

[beenthere]

"Distant" friends fall in the category of my normal "Time and Materials" charge to everyone else. I would assume the "friend" is coming to you for your expertise, and not that you will be cheaper than an "expert". Just my opinion. I assume you are the expert.

 

[bgott]

Monday, if I can remember, I'll try to swing by a shop I used to work at and book the time. A grand sounds like a good ballpark figure. The incidentals might eat him alive. Why does he need a new engine?

 

[northcreek2624]

He ran it out of oil,he went 10k+ since his last change,now he's got a rod that sounds like it wants to get out of that engine real bad......Mike

 

[bgott]

Have fun! If this guy takes so little care of his equipment you stand a good chance of having serious warranty problems with him. At least you shouldn't have to worry about oil soaked O2 sensors and oil plugged catylitic converters. Unless he was burning 2 quarts every 100 miles and that's why he didn't change the oil. How many miles on the truck?

 

[rdbrumfield]

I just replaced a 460 in a 93 ford 350. I can tell you that I wouldn''t do that again for anyone but myself. I never saw so many vacumn and special guards and such, what a mess. It is fine and runs great and I'm glad I didn't have the expense of having someone else do it. I sure appreciate some of my older rigs though, easy to work on.

 

[northcreek2624]

<font color="red">" I can tell you that I wouldn''t do that again for anyone but myself "</font>

I know the feeling.worst one I ever did was a Chev AWD Astro van only to have the factory rebuilt engine go bad after a month,Oh they gave me another engine but, had to eat my labor.My knuckles were raw for a week on that one.
Even front drive swaps aren't as bad as that van was and probably vans in general..........Thanks,Mike

 

[karmakanic]

I can't tell you what to charge, but I can tell you that the guys over at IATN (international auto technicians network) say the easiest way to do the job is to remove the cab.

Yes, you read correctly. I don't work on them so wasn't paying total attention, but I seem to remember 24 hours being mentioned.

Dave

 

[rdbrumfield]

Remove the Cab? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bgott]

Sorry I didn't get around to getting the info yesterday. According to Alldata the job pays 19.5 hours to install a long block. Short block is 22.5.

 

[northcreek2624]

Thanks for checking that out for me,that seems about right.....Mike

 

[BobinCols]

We have not had to change out a Triton engine as of yet. I doubt seriously if many people could switch this motor out in 19.5 hours. You will probably spend at least 8 hours changing parts over once the engine is out. I believe a rebuilt engine with heads is over $3000 (not list). I hope you have a good back as you will be laying over the front for a while. The last 4 cylinders are under the cowl of the cab. Any time you work on a 4WD, that takes longer. $1000/40 hours=$25 hour..

 

[bgott]

I know I wouldn't have been able to do it in that time. I would have spent the first four hours cussin' and kicking stuff around the shop just because I got stuck doin' it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif